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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Maybe windows is not used in supercomputers often because unix and linux is more flexiable for the cpus they use(Power9,Sparc,etc)

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Plus Linux doesn't limit you in the number of drives, whereas Windows limits you from A to Z. I read it here.

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You can mount drives against folders in windows. So while D: is one drive, D:\Logs or D:\Cake can each be a different disk.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What in the world? I don't think I've ever seen that in the wild

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 1 points 5 days ago

It’s common in the server world. KB article on it is here.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

For people who haven’t installed Windows before, the default boot drive is G, and the default file system is C

So you only have 25 to work with (everything but G)

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Almost, the default boot drive is C:, everything gets mapped after that. So if you have a second HDD at D: and a disk reader at E:, any USBs you plug in would go to F:.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why do you copy the boot files from C and put them in G during install then?

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't think anybody does that, honestly.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can have a helper script do it for you (the gui) but it still happening in the background

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The boot files go into C:, not G:.

Windows can't operate if you did that, it doesn't let you.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Copy Boot Files to EFI Copy the boot files to complete the EFI partition to boot into our windows.

bcdboot c:\Windows /s G: /f ALL

Source: https://christitus.com/install-windows-the-arch-linux-way/

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fijn article, thanks for sharing!

Still, I don't get why'd you do that, all my windows installation automatically put boot files onto C: and did not allow me to touch them afterwards.
G: also seems completely arbitrary, and I'm the majority of windowa setups wouldn't exist or be an external drive.
Simple as.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

The boot directory on your file system is where the system gets it from to put on G. It’s left there for recovery/repair

But you still have a G partition for the boot. It lets the computer itself have an easier time finding it (think labeled as boot). Your ssd is divided, it’s not a 2nd physical disk

The letter is arbitrary, so is C. It’s just the default

G can be mapped after boot (usually to removable drives)

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago

Ok that would make sense tbh

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 6 points 5 days ago

That's certainly a big part of it. When one needs to buy a metric crap load of CPUs, one tends to shop outside the popular defaults.

Another big reason, historically, is that Supercomputers didn't typically have any kind of non-command-line way to interact with them, and Windows needed it.

Until PowerShell and Windows 8, there were still substantial configuration options in Windows that were 100% managed by graphical packages. They could be changed by direct file edits and registry editing, but it added a lot of risk. All of the "did I make a mistake" tools were graphical and so unavailable from command line.

So any version of Windows stripped down enough to run on any super-computer cluster was going to be missing a lot of features, until around 2006.

Since Linux and Unix started as command line operating systems, both already had plenty fully featured options for Supercomputing.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

More importantly, they can't adapt Windows to their needs.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Yep the other reason.