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Do you think things will get better? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by daggermoon@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I don't mean better for you or me but better in general. Do you believe our species will ever reach some form of enlightenment or will we destroy ourselves?

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Progression to Socialism is the alternative. We shouldn't advocate for collapse, but public ownership and central planning, which can facilitate green initiatives divorced from the profit motive.

All collapse will do is reset the clock, we will eventually run into the problems of late-stage Capitalism again once humanity runs the course of history again in hundreds or thousands of years.

[–] S13Ni@lemmy.studio 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Name one socialist/communist nation that hasn't been growth based industrialist economy? I think anything growth based is not gonna happen much longer, due to energy shortage, habitat loss, climate change, running out of critical minerals etc.

Sure I'm open for some degrowth socialism but don't really believe that's the way things gonna work out.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

AES states historically plan production based on fulfilling needs, not profits. Profit is driven by consumption, so there is always an incentive to overproduce. Combined with a focus on green energy and efficient planning, Socialism is a necessity, and again, returning to earlier production methods will only result in repeating the historical development in Mode of Production.