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French pupil’s father on trial for spreading lies that led to teacher’s Islamist beheading
(www.theguardian.com)
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Religion of peace
How old are you to believe peace can achieved by being peaceful?
Do you think they're trying to achieve peace by beheading teachers for showing cartoons??
No I'm just pointing out the illusion of peace
Illusion of peace when people aren't killing teachers in the name of religion. Sure seems like an illusion to strive for.
Yeah that's mine actually.
You a Baha'i? Cause with what they've done in India and Myanmar, Hinduism and Buddhism are out.
I don't care who they believe for if they are so upset about a cartoon that they'll kill people and commit other violent acts. Fuck those people and anyone defending that shit.
Nobodys defending that just that these same these phrases are usually said by those who later attack the religious people. Just so you know im an athiest but not a douchebag.
And what's bad about attacking the sort of people who think it's okay to commit violence in the name of their religion, especially fucking kill people over a cartoon?
Absolutely nothing.
People on the left (myself included) often conflate "recognizing the religion of Islam as harmful brainrot" with "people who follow Islam suck and should be hated."
I don't hate the people, but I sure do hate the brainrot. Same with Christianity, really.
Can these people just fuck off with their „religion of peace“ dogwhistle it’s so annoying and obvious
I'm not sure what you think is the dogwhistle, it's directly mocking the claim of Islam being a "religion of peace"
Yeah honestly go back to 4chan with that intel energy
Lol
Autocorrect felt sorry for you. I don’t
I'm devastated
No more mister-nice-guy I see
Why would I be nice to bigots? That’s what got us in the whole mess that is another Trump presidency and Europe sliding into fascism in the first place. If you want to have a taste of what tolerating this ”I‘m just pointing out facts“ leads to go back to any random politics subreddit and see what has happened there. I don’t need this in here. I’m tired of it. I‘m not special, I’m like 99% of people out there, I’m nice if you are. Being a bigot isn’t being nice.
I agree with the premise of this statement, although this was about someone saying "religion of peace" to mock the Muslims who say it, I don't believe that's bigotry, it's just irony. Also, who knows, maybe Catholics or some other religion commit more of these acts, but it's difficult to know through the news alone, and religion of peace is already a Muslim stereotype, fully justified or not.
For the record though, I also follow your stance about not being nice to bigots, unjustified hate should only stay in the mind, but that possibly has the risk of radicalising someone further.
And I think it’s totally fine to criticize religion, especially organized religion that instrumentalizes people for their own political gain. For the sake of free speech that has to be possible.
But this specific mockery imo comes from a very particular crowd that comments this under every article that is about a Muslim read person committing a crime. And then if you base your observation on news articles there’s unfortunately a long history of institutional racism that creates a bias in our perception through overreporting in the media and overemphasis in law enforcement.
Maybe to bring across my point, if a Zionist settler/soldier does some terroristic/genocidal, we also don’t establish a connection between their actions and Judaism as a whole, because we would be rightfully accused of antisemitism. In the same way, the actions of a few extremist individuals shouldn’t hold hostage the other 99.9% of the 1.5bn Muslims who live peacefully. I think I wouldn’t care too much and would agree that it’s just mockery if this wouldn’t be so common to read on right wing platforms. I don’t want to let any malicious actors shift the Overton window in here to where it is in most other social media.
It's a racist dog whistle because you are indicting the entirety of a religion based on the actions of a single person and their view of that religion. It is bigoted and ignorant, which is not the solution to this problem of religious radicalization.
Nothing racist about it. I don't care if you're white, black, or purple. I don't hate the followers of Islam, but the religion itself is utter trash - as are all religions, and especially Abrahimic ones. Patriarchal bullshit.
Islamic extremism isn't some one off instance. Even violence over cartoons and such isn't a singular instance. So fuck off defending that shit.
Of course it's not a one off instance. It's the 2nd biggest religion in the world. There's a lot of people who identify as Muslim. Just because some of them fall to extremism and commit atrocities does not damn the entire faith. If that's the case then declare your faith or lack of it and I will fill an unlimited count of its crimes.
There's a difference between a religion having an extremism problem, such as Islam and a religion being inherently extremist. You ever consider why Islam has an extremism problem now in modern day and not say, the Islamic golden age?
Bigoted and ignorant. As much as the extremists you hate. Your just not violent. Yet.
I'm not religious. Have at it.
There's a saying about bad apples you might've heard. Especially true if there's loads of those bad apples.
"You're almost as bad as the fucked up murderous extremists, apart from being murderous."
I guess calling them out is almost as bad lmao.