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French pupil’s father on trial for spreading lies that led to teacher’s Islamist beheading
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 04 Nov 2024
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Yeah honestly go back to 4chan with that intel energy
Lol
Autocorrect felt sorry for you. I don’t
I'm devastated
No more mister-nice-guy I see
Why would I be nice to bigots? That’s what got us in the whole mess that is another Trump presidency and Europe sliding into fascism in the first place. If you want to have a taste of what tolerating this ”I‘m just pointing out facts“ leads to go back to any random politics subreddit and see what has happened there. I don’t need this in here. I’m tired of it. I‘m not special, I’m like 99% of people out there, I’m nice if you are. Being a bigot isn’t being nice.
I agree with the premise of this statement, although this was about someone saying "religion of peace" to mock the Muslims who say it, I don't believe that's bigotry, it's just irony. Also, who knows, maybe Catholics or some other religion commit more of these acts, but it's difficult to know through the news alone, and religion of peace is already a Muslim stereotype, fully justified or not.
For the record though, I also follow your stance about not being nice to bigots, unjustified hate should only stay in the mind, but that possibly has the risk of radicalising someone further.
And I think it’s totally fine to criticize religion, especially organized religion that instrumentalizes people for their own political gain. For the sake of free speech that has to be possible.
But this specific mockery imo comes from a very particular crowd that comments this under every article that is about a Muslim read person committing a crime. And then if you base your observation on news articles there’s unfortunately a long history of institutional racism that creates a bias in our perception through overreporting in the media and overemphasis in law enforcement.
Maybe to bring across my point, if a Zionist settler/soldier does some terroristic/genocidal, we also don’t establish a connection between their actions and Judaism as a whole, because we would be rightfully accused of antisemitism. In the same way, the actions of a few extremist individuals shouldn’t hold hostage the other 99.9% of the 1.5bn Muslims who live peacefully. I think I wouldn’t care too much and would agree that it’s just mockery if this wouldn’t be so common to read on right wing platforms. I don’t want to let any malicious actors shift the Overton window in here to where it is in most other social media.