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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

IMO, not being able to comprehend cruelty makes someone an ass. The dude in this story could have been kind, polite... they could have helped mow the lawn of their elderly neighbor that's no longer able to do so themselves.

Regardless of how otherwise good you are treating a pet that you've accepted responsibility for and who, potentially, fully trusts you as family like this... that makes you an ass.

Anyways I think my only real objection to your original statement is that I don't think veganism is relevant to this story. I'd say that vegans are more likely to treat their pet well but it's not a guarantee - even among vegans that made that choice for an ethical reason there are still assholes.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Vegans might be nicer to animals but in my experience they're generally trash to other people. Also a vegan owning a pet is hypocrisy in the finest form.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eh... they often are abrasive but it's because most of them genuinely believe that consumption of meat is unethical. I certainly don't appreciate being on the receiving end of their criticism but I can respect that it's at least logically consistent.

A vegan owning a pet isn't hypocritical to most of them - PETA was anti-pet for a while but it seems they came to a better comprehension https://www.peta.org/about-peta/why-peta/pets/

In general, though, vegans are against using animals for their matter and animal mistreatment. Ethical omnivores often refuse to eat animal products from factory farms due to the excessive cruelty involved in that process and vegans do take it further (I've always been a bit weirded out by their refusal to eat non-meat products like cheeses and the like but I do understand the logic).

Inviting a pet into your life, if you provide a loving home for them to be in, isn't against mainline veganism - though people keeping pets they can't properly care for usually is. It's all about making sure animals are treated well.

Some vegans just get hyper violent about it though.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 month ago

"tHe peT cAnT coNsENT to owNeRsHIp"

Is the argument I get when I troll c/vegan

[–] weastie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Please don't let your experience with vegans push you away from it. There's plenty of reasonable, kind, and understanding vegans.

Also btw, rescuing a shelter animal = vegan, buying a bred animal = not vegan.