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‘I believed things he told me that I now understand to be … lies,’ Dave Hancock says in new Rittenhouse documentary

A former spokesperson for Kyle Rittenhouse says he became disillusioned with his ex-client after learning that he had sent text messages pledging to “fucking murder” shoplifters outside a Chicago pharmacy before later shooting two people to death during racial justice protests in Wisconsin in 2020.

Dave Hancock made that remark about Rittenhouse – for whom he also worked as a security guard – on a Law & Crime documentary that premiered on Friday. The show explored the unsuccessful criminal prosecution of Rittenhouse, who killed Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

As Hancock told it on The Trials of Kyle Rittenhouse, the 90-minute film’s main subject had “a history of things he was doing prior to [the double slaying], specifically patrolling the street for months with guns and borrowing people’s security uniforms, doing whatever he could to try to get into some kind of a fight”.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Congratulations, US legal system! You have encouraged a murderous vigilante!

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

“Good guys with guns” as a slogan was always going to turn out this way.

That’s one of the many reasons Americans are such stupid people, they see the world in a “good guy / bad guy” dichotomy, where they are the good guys. And “good guys” and their actions are all based on beliefs and opinions. It’s justification for YOUR atrocities while acting disgusted at others.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree with you 100%. So many of my fellow Americans (of every political stripe) see the world in that black and white way. There's no nuance to be had here most of the time and it's depressing.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

There is nuance to be had, it's just been overwritten by the mainstream media trying to pretend that they're centrist.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You might be shocked to learn that not all Americans are the same. Bigot.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If I wasn’t describing you, you wouldn’t be so offended.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would still find it inappropriate, actually.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I bet you do. How inappropriate are school shootings, Mr. Gun Advocate?

Best not think about that, huh

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

I am not a gun advocate or a mister.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're really not doing a good job at countering their claim...

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

By pointing out that hating on everybody from a single country is bigotry?

Obviously your opinion is more common, but I disagree.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What is my opinion? Please state it. Because I didn't give it.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I missed that you were replying to a comment I made to OP, but you are not OP. So I have no idea.

Edit: Oh wait, nevermind. You did share your opinion and it is in line with OP's.

There's no nuance to be had here most of the time and it's depressing.

There is nuance to be had because not everybody is the same.

I understand that there are tons of problems in the US, but hating on an entire culture/people is bigotry no matter who it is aimed towards.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sigh. That is not my opinion about any country, that's my opinion about our species.

"There is no nuance to be had here" means that people don't notice the nuance because they have their own personal agendas. That's not an American problem, that's a global problem.

And good job proving that by deciding you know what my opinion on a subject I never opined on is and deciding that something unrelated was my opinion because of your agenda.

So thanks.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You might need to be a little clearer about that in the future to make it seem less bigoted.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No one but you had any trouble with what I said.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That doesn't really mean anything.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You want me to be clearer but no one else has that need here. So I'd say that means everything.

Unless, of course, you think the world needs to cater to you. Does it? Are you that important?

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wow, aren't you being a jerk.

Personal attacks are not useful.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wow, aren’t you being a jerk.

That's quite the personal attack.

Personal attacks are not useful.

Literally one sentence after making a personal attack in the exact same post. Amazing. I guess the answer to my question is yes.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pointing out that someone is being rude is not a personal attack.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But calling someone a jerk is. Which you did:

You're welcome to lie that 'jerk' isn't an insult, but any basic thesaurus will disagree:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/jerk

As will any dictionary:

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/jerk#american-jerk-1-noun

I look forward to your lie.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wow, aren't you needlessly aggressive.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Not as needlessly aggressive as someone who complains about insults and then tells an insult the very next sentence.

It's really incredible how many things now you've accused me of that you can't see you're guilty of yourself, but it is quite amusing.