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[–] finley@lemm.ee 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

I wish I could blame this one on Trump, but neo-Nazi crazies have been stoking this fire for a long time. And, honestly, good ol’ racism has been doing its work on this one from the beginning.

Trump only latched onto it recently, thanks to that Nazi vampire Laura Loomer

Edit: I apologize for being unclear— Trump is a monster and obviously responsible for the spreading of this lie. I was merely trying to speak to the rumor’s provenance and was very clumsy in my speech. I’m sorry.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Were the Republican nazis calling in bomb threats to Springfield before trump broadcast his fake news on air?

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No name racists on the internet vs former (and potential future) POTUS... Yeah you're right, it's tough to tell who is more responsible for spreading this particular bit of misinformation.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was talking to my 90 year old grandfather recently if the political climate has ever been this bad. He responded. "No, its never been this bad. Trump is an incendiary."

Trump absolutely takes a lot of blame in this. He heard something he thought would benefit him and repeated it tot the masses like it was fact.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was pointed out to me just recently that my comment was unclear— YES, Trump is obviously to blame here. I was trying to comment on the provenance of the claim. I apologize for my clumsiness of speech.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

No worries I think ultimately we all agree here

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

Trump is to blame. When someone who half of the country blindly follows starts spewing slanderous venom, his followers will do the same. He's been doing it for years on other random issues. They follow every time. And he knows it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't you think he at least shares the blame?

[–] finley@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, of course. Why does everything have to be a binary?

I was discussing provenance, not “ultimate and solitary blame”

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is what you said:

I wish I could blame this one on Trump, but neo-Nazi crazies have been stoking this fire for a long time.

Sounds like you're the one who made it a binary.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Perhaps I should have spoken more clearly then

Edit: yeah, I see how that could be read the wrong way

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

but neo-Nazi crazies have been stoking this fire for a long time.

Acting like Trump didn't come in with a leaf blower and start blowing embers everywhere is just crazy to me.