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I kimd of am, why are so many relationships in media strsight? We need more lgbt representation

This is dumb and I'm probably getting offended for no reason but here's a small experience I dealt with recently

So like 30 minutes ago my grandmother wanted me to smile so she told me to think of a pretty girl and while I didn't react at all my first thought was literally "why not pretty boys" Its silly I know.

I'm not out but I literally couldn't be leaving anymore hints that I'm bi. Its funny how nobody noticed yet

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[–] flora_explora@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not sure how you meant it, I kind of feel weird about your comment though. How do you get to 95% vs 5%? What about e.g. the Kinsey scale?

What feels totally weird about your comment to me, and actually outright offends me, is how you say that queer people need their 5% space and then we can get on with normal life. But to me, being queer is about breaking out of oppressive norms and heteronormativity is such an oppressive norm. I don't want to have to live with it. It not does all us queer people harm, it's bad for everyone. You cannot image how I cringe seeing how straight cis people act, it's just terrible. So no, 5% is not enough, I want everyone (!) to be free of norms and free what they want to do. And the view that being straight is a default, just like being male, cis, white, able-bodied, etc also has to go. That is just not reality and it does so much damage.

[–] lukini@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They didn't say it's the default. If more people are straight, you'll see more straight representation. That's just generally how things work for everything, not just sexual orientation. There are more white people on TV in the US. There are more Japanese people on TV in Japan. You don't see as many redheads in American media. There aren't many shows focused around little people. I could go on and on with examples here.

[–] flamingarms@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're also saying "we don't need more", overlooking the entire value of representation.

[–] lukini@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah the "need" part doesn't come off the best, but I get what they mean. I think they're saying the current representation is adequate, whether or not that's agreed upon.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's exactly how I meant it when I wrote the comment. Purely from a statistical perspective. Your "there are more japanese people on japanese tv" example pretty much sums it up. I'm just not as good as you at choosing my words.

[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

This is a duplicate of two other discussions on statistics already happening in this post. I'm glad there's a lot of people pushing back to show you how you're wrong and actively causing harm to people right now, but I wanted to let you know that any further discussion trying to back up your point will be removed and you will be ejected for a failure of empathy and the ability to start any kind of meaningful discussion.

[–] damntree@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ou cannot image how I cringe seeing how straight cis people act, it’s just terrible.

Speaking of offensive. You sound kind of bigoted yourself.

[–] flora_explora@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

I meant people having gender reveal parties, fragile masculinity, people trying to police gender roles of everyone around, and so on... Once you notice how much everyone tries to keep up with heteronormativity in order to not be socially sanctioned by others, you see it pretty much everywhere in daily life. And well, I get socially sanctioned a lot by people (being stared at, getting transphobic/homophobic slurs thrown at me, being sexually harassed, etc) that cringing about it is pretty much my only way to kind of deal with everyone still trying to live up to a norm that heavily oppresses me and everyone else.