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Decentralised YouTube alternative Odysee no longer serving ads (odysee.com)

submitted 3 months ago by DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Odysee, a decentralised YouTube alternative focused on free speech, is officially ending the serving of ads on the platform, starting today. The post:

"Dear friends of Odysee, Starting today, we're removing all ads. We don't need ads to make money as a platform and we are confident in the development of our own new monetisation programs that will help creators earn a living and at the same time keep Odysee alive. Ultimately, sacrificing the overall user experience to make a few bucks isn't worth it to us and nor is it even sustainable for a platform that wishes to make something truly open and creatively free.

As we take this decision, one thing is certain to us, media platforms (even ones that market themselves as 'free-speech') typically devolve into advertising companies and end up becoming beholden to their paymasters. It's been that way for centuries and is never going to change.

As we see YouTube become more aggressive with their ad deployment and 'Free Speech' platforms try to build their own ad businesses it's apparent to us that we're building a model for Odysee that will keep it sustainable not only financially, but in its ability to provide an incorruptible user experience.

Our approach may be considered niche or unconventional, that's fine by us. Odysee will be used by the world on terms that are agreeable to its users, and we know our users don't like ads.

Best, Founder & Creator, Chief Executive Officer. Julian Chandra"

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[–] parpol@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I sure haven't seen any far right videos on there. My suggestions are always open source, linux, science, mental outlaw and Louis Rossman.

If there is far right content, it definitely is filtered away if you don't watch similar content. I checked out the featured tab just now and didn't find anything remotely political.

[–] rozodru@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I have. Literally checked out the the site for the first time today because of this post. it's literally on their front page. I don't have an account there, private window, all that and I still got it either far right or racist or conspiracy bullshit.

[–] parpol@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago

OK, the 3d to 5d consciousness video is conspiracy bullshit by some religious nutjob, that is for sure. And the comments in that video seemed to shit on the creator, so it is not like people are agreeing with it. I agree it is insane.

But the rest of the videos you'll have to explain to me what makes them far-right, and racist, because they just seemed typically conservative to me, and some of the points made sense. For example, thinking the Olympics opening ceremony was boring and overall bad doesn't make you far right.

Now, I just skimmed over the videos so I might have missed something, but I saw nothing that would for example get you banned on youtube. Maybe they'd get you false copyright struck for showing the Olympics opening ceremony because apparently that's been happening to critics on youtube, so I understand why they would rather post it on odysee.

The assassins creed video is just plain true. I'm not conservative, but I do live in Japan, and there is definitely anger over the cultural appropriation and misrepresentation of Japanese history. The video summarizes the points but nothing stated is far-right.

Babylon bee has been called "far-right" by the NYT at one point, but it was then amended and they apologized, so as far as I know, it is another typical conservative news media and mostly satire. I skimmed over this video too, but didn't see anything far-right in it. It seemed to be about censorship, and had some fair points to be honest.

So to summarize, They're conservative, and I don't agree with all of the points, but they're not far-right. Except for that conspiracy nutjob video, none of these need to be removed from any platform.

[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Most of those videos are also found on YouTube. I would expect that you don't see those videos suggested to you because the algorithm has learned what you like to watch.

If you open up YouTube with a VPN and in a private tab you'll likely get search results that include a mix from both the right and the left.

I'd rather not link to them, but from the ones you circled, these are the videos that I found on YouTube while doing a quick search:

The Babylon Bee video
The Paris Olympics opening ceremony video
The Assassins Creed video

Now please excuse me as I purge my history...

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm there because some of my favorite streamers, like MentalOutlaw, are there. I know there will be people who hold an opinion or view that i disagree with but the same is true here. I'm not saying that there is hate speech here but i can't expect every site i visit to be sunshines and rainbows just for me.