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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

People seriously still quote On Authority? 🙄

[–] highduc@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I found the quote interesting. Is the source material bad? How so?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Engels conflates authority with basically everything: necesity, organization, processes, -iolence, self-defense, etc.

This video thoroughly debunks the essay

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

An anticommunist breadtuber (but I repeat myself) debunks Engels 😂 Anarchism, unlike Marxism-Leninism, has yet to succeed in the real world for more than a few months. We will welcome anarchists’ lectures once they’ve proven their theory in praxis.

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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (11 children)

He literally just cites abridged arguments from “The problems with on authority”

Read "A Marxist Response to “The problems with on authority” ": https://hexbear.net/post/2141265

Also yeah, I watched it so everyone else doesn't have to waste time

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To this day, nobody's actually articulated any counterpoints to it, so yeah.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago (17 children)

Just cause you chose to ignore the well-founded critique, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, Engels does a pretty good job of explaining why "authouritarian" complaints are usually explained purely by vibes.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago (45 children)

He mostly explained how he actually didn't really have a proper grasp of what authority actually means. He conflated them with a lot of things without actually making sense. I'm surprised why "On authority" is so widely known.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Let me guess, you've read "The problems with on authority", but haven't read "A Marxist Response to "The problems with on authority" " ?

Here you go: https://hexbear.net/post/2141265

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