Sergio

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[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 hours ago

The Fighting Cholitas are a group of female wrestlers who perform in El Alto, Bolivia.[1] The Cholitas are part of a group called the Titans of the Ring, which includes both male and female wrestlers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Cholitas

Compare this to Tinku:

Tinku, a Bolivian Quechua tradition from Norte Potosí, began as a form of ritualistic combat. In the Quechua language, it means "meeting-encounter".[1] During this ritual, men and women from different communities will meet and begin the festivities by dancing. The women will then form circles and begin chanting while the men proceed to fight each other; eventually the women will join in the fighting as well. Large tinkus are held in Potosí during the first few weeks of May.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinku

for example see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGU8DEN2Dpk

and Takanakuy:

Takanakuy (Quechua for "to hit each other")[1] is an annual established practice of fighting fellow community members held on 25 December... ... The main event happens in the Peruvian Andes in the province of Chumbivilcas which has a population of approximately 300, but during the events about 3,000 gather to watch the fights. There is a second event that takes place the day after Christmas in the village of Llique, located in the province of Cuzco. This is where the best fighters of multiple indigenous villages congregate the strongest men, women, and even children for fist fights. There is no police, no military service and no government service in these communities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takanakuy

for example see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB6lqvSCsPY

But the team in the OP article is probably most like Mexican women's Lucha Libre:

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 hours ago

Your source number 2 involves a hard interdisciplinary research problem: "what is meaningful language use?" My grad school thesis was tangentially related to it, so I'm most familiar with it from the AI perspective. Early AI researchers quickly realized that you can't just dump a dictionary into a computer and suddenly have it understand language. You can add high-level "scripts" to the computer (Schankian scripts), but then it will just be manipulating symbols (chinese room problem). You can tie the symbols to things in the world (symbol grounding) or to its own processing (embodied meaning) but how do you coordinate those symbols with other agents, be they people or machines?

Think about that last question for a moment. Do you have an answer? I don't think anyone does yet, so whatever you're thinking is probably a good start towards further reading. @fubo@lemmy.world's reply points out some of the issues involved, and these issues suggest the problem's interdisciplinary nature: psychology, sociology, corpus linguistics, philosophy (both analytic i.e. Wittgenstein and Kripke, and continental as suggested by @AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world's reply), cognitive science, neurolinguistics, etc. Literary theory is fun too, they say things like: an interpretation is situated, subjective, and performative. OK, sounds great, but how do you turn that into something that a computer does? It turns out that there are a lot of great ideas, but there's still a lot of work to do to tie it all together. (and unfortunately way too many people think deep neural networks / LLMs can just solve it all by themselves grumble grumble...)

Given the above, to answer your specific question: "Is [meaningful] language mostly solipsistic?" I think most people would say "probably not", with the caveat that it depends on how you define your terms. Clearly there are very important processes that work only in your own cognitive system, but it seems likely that external factors also play a necessary role.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, beehaw defederated from lemmy.world, home of !cat@lemmy.world.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 22 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Dear customer: Great news! We are screwups so we just kind of assumed your package would be late, but in this ONE case, we are apparently not going to screw up as bad as we usually do! Please do not expect this level of excellence in the future.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 3 points 20 hours ago
[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 2 points 21 hours ago

Not their best collaboration. Still better than 99% of the music out there.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

See, this is why I keep speech recognition turned off...

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 36 points 1 day ago

Well they were planning on Effing it, so maybe they were wearing "protection".

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

True story: me and my BFF, both Americans, were in Rome on September 11, 2001. We later tried to figure out exactly where we were when the first plane hit, and as far as we could tell we were right around Castel Sant'Angelo, walking along the Tiber for a while before cutting over towards the Spanish Steps.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 days ago

Isn’t there a WhatsApp download for a desktop app?

all I know about it is the following:

While the messaging platform already offers cross-platform support, users were able to add a new contact only via the primary Android phone or iOS handset—by adding a phone number or scanning a QR code. ... In a press release, WhatsApp notes that users will soon be able to add and manage contacts through WhatsApp Web and also through Windows platforms or their preferred device, like Android tablets.

https://www.androidcentral.com/apps-software/whatsapp-likely-to-have-userames-soon

unclear if/how soon you'll be able to use it without a phone number at all.

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