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Time to make a billion dollars on something else, then start up a car company designed to fail. No investors, design a car for a 60-70k buying price, few bells and whistles, but built to last indefinitely with basic maintenance. Start the company planning to practically close it down just after the last preorder customer has their car delivered and become a maintenance company with a few employees to make replacement parts and install them. If demand rises, redesign for the new times, ramp up and do it all again.
"Why do you hate freedom? And America? And puppies? And apple pie?" -Republicans, probably
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I haven’t even read the article yet, and my cynical ass came to the same conclusion based on the headline. 😣
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What about it's batteries?
They are still chemical so they wouldn't last forever.
Batteries can be replaced. An EV that could run 1 million miles would still need maintenance - I think the point is that they could be designed to last.
Planned obsolescence is so wide spread we don't even notice it, but lots of products are designed to fail either through cheaper components or deliberately flawed design. That means we have to go and buy a replacement. It is also generally cheaper.
So we either have cheap products that will break or seemingly expensive products but they last for a very long time. But in the long run the cheap products generally cost you more to buy than one expensive product.
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Yes, the batteries would need to be replaced but that means designing them to be replaced.
Unlike the Tesla model Y which built the battery into the frame and filled it with foam so that it absolutely cannot get replaced. Musk said the way to replace the battery is to send the entire car to the scrap yard and recover the lithium from the shredder.
That…can’t be true.
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Friend of mine bought an EV. Didn't even last a month. He landed in a tree.
"landed"?
Yeah, got launched when drifting off the road
Then the wheels just fell off. Stupid woke EVs are built to fail.
Usually they build them so the wheels don't fall off.
Then explain that pic 😤
I'm sure if we spend enough time working on it, we can figure out how this is all OPEC's fault. /s (jeeze tho I hope your friend was okay!)
He luckily only has 4 broken ribs.
What was the issue? Do you know?
I think the tree didn't give way when it should have and damaged it a bit, hard to tell though
Probably turned off traction control and floored it. EVs have some pretty solid acceleration and weight a bit more than their ICE counterparts.
Nope, he drove 80km/h with traction control, but lost consciousness somehow. No lines on the road (out in the German countryside) so no line assist. Car went straight when there was a very mild turn, so he drove off the road, into some uphill ridge whi h launched him, woke up when flying through the air after which he landed in a bunch of trees. This is where he landed. He luckily only had 4 broken ribs.
Daaaamn crazy story. Scary you can just tap out like that. Good on him he didn't get injured too much
That sucks I hope he's good.
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Lost consciousness for a bit. Unknown why.
Probably the electromagnetic fields of EV! EMF is very bad with those! (/s)
Handing out driving licences like they were sweets instead of actually testing people's ability to drive, maybe?
This is often the issue. Not in this case though. He had his license for 24 years, while driving from the south of Germany to the Netherlands back and forth twice a month. He never had an accident before.
It can't possibly be that. We have to abolish trees - that's the real answer!
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Car manufacturers:
This is basically like saying combustion vehicles could last nearly forever if you replaced the engine every now and then
I mean...they can, you just refresh the motor. Tons of ICE vehicles out there with 400-500k miles on them. Hell most semi trucks have millions of miles on them.
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Will use 4x as much electricity though, ugh.
https://www.cleanenergyresourceteams.org/your-old-refrigerator-energy-hog
Anyone know of any refrigerators today that are as durable as older ones and have today's efficiencies, but without the smart features and other junk?
Average refrigerator today still lasts 13 years though, and while they're made cheaply they also are cheaper (at least as a portion percentage of the average paycheck).
https://reviewed.usatoday.com/dishwashers/features/ask-the-experts-why-dont-new-home-appliances-last
I've heard that in the US fridges are generally different, with stuff like active fans and nonsense like that. Is that true?
Because every fridge I've seen in Europe is mechanically extremely basic and I've literally never seen or even heard of one breaking. In my experience fridges are one of the only things that have remained phenomenally simple in design and extremely unlikely to break.
Every LG and Samsung major appliance I've had has broken within 5 years.
Refrigerators, washing machines, and dryers.
Prior, I only ever had 80s era American tank energy hogs. Switched back to American brands in the last few years, so too soon to tell if they'll work out better...
Here's to hoping.
Oh, and having dealt with LG warranty for both electronics and major appliances, I'll never buy another LG product that isn't a monitor.
I think Samsung is generally considered trash now. I certainly will never buy any of their "smart" objects either, especially not an ad-ridden TV.
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Well there are evaporator fans in modern refrigerators in the US. They serve an important role though helping with defrosting, improving cooling efficiency, and evenness of cooling throughout the fridge.
https://refrigeratorguide.net/maximize-cooling-efficiency-best-refrigerator-evaporator/
Usually only very small refrigerators are without them now.
It is another point of failure though, but should be pretty easily repairable. I mean it'll still be able to cool without the fan, but it'll be running much more to try and compensate and keep things cool though.
If you know the YouTube channel technology connections, here's a fun video of him messing around with a fanless style refrigerator:
Sub Zero, Thermador... High end refrigerators, just look at the price, we decided to forget the idea because of that.
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We have a refrigerator from the '80s that runs like a champ.
Solved the energy problem by putting solar panels on the roof.
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Bad drivers like me can fix that by applying wear to bodywork. Normal driving wears the tires and all the gears, gaskets, and bearings in the system. But it can probably last 20 years.
Here a link to bypass the paywall:
I bet smartphones could last 3 or 4 years even if companies let them 😏
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