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[–] manucode@infosec.pub 0 points 3 months ago (13 children)

I'm interested in how Americans pronouncebourgeois.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 0 points 3 months ago

Different ways, I usually say boo-jwah, bur-jwah is also one I've heard though.

[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I'm actually something of a job creator myself. Last week at the grocery store I didn't return my cart to the coral. They had to pay someone to go out and bring it in!

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Boogers please. We ain't no uppity frogs.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I personally pronounce it fahrenheit

[–] JovialSodium@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 months ago

I and anyone I've heard say the word says it the same as the English pronunciation in this random video I found searching for how to pronounce it. For whatever that small sample size is worth.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3pMOHP3Uu54

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I pronounce it bore-zhwah. Is that wrong?

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Feel like that's as correct as we can get, as Americans.

[–] olosta@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

French pronounce the "ou" as is "tour". But you do you.

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Bore rhymes with tour.. no?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bore rhymes with tore. Tour is closer to sewer

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I've never heard anyone pronounce "tour" as rhymes with "sewer" in English. Perhaps in other languages?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Closer to sewer, or "doer" or "fewer". Compress it to one syllable. Think "ooh" not "ohh".

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not... correcting you, I'm just explaining that I never hear anyone pronouncing tour such that it rhymes with either pronunciation of sewer.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You said you'd never heard it that way, I just wanted to clarify that I communicated the right pronunciation since "sewer" is a bit more drawn out than I meant to imply. All good

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Sorry, I was a little defensive because some others seemed to think I was arguing with you. Your explanation made sense, though.

[–] static09@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Maybe you're pronouncing sewer in thinking of a person who sews instead of sewer as in waste drainage.

[–] sparkle@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In most American dialects and some British dialects, "bore" and "tour" rhyme (called the "pour-poor merger"). But in some dialects it may rhyme with "sewer"/"two-er" or have the same sound as in "blue" or even as in "were".

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Tour as in tu- er or tore? I've heard it pronounced both ways here in the states

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Whoa what? I've never heard anyone pronounce tour as tu-er. At that point you might as well slap an umlaut on that bad boy

A more aggressively American pronunciation would be bore-geo-is.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

We just say bourgeois

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lol Idk I'm not a linguist, me probably from hearing it pronounced that way in media.

"DOWN WITH THE BOURGEOISIE!"

Seems like it comes from the French pronunciation? Idk man

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Those are two different words. Bourgeois is an adjective describing the materialist characteristic of the middle class. The bourgeoisie is the materialistic middle class itself.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Ah I misread then lol

Boosh-E is probably more accurate then?

Or booshjie lol

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"Fires two random arrows, both to the linguist's heart. Imagine if he tried!"

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

For fucks sake we say boozhwah or boojee.

[–] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Bourxjeauxaseaux

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago

as long as the French get offended by the pronunciation, then it's pronounced correctly in American

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

'Boojz wah', or if I'm feeling silly bourguignon. But I'd probably be more likely to use 'middle class' instead of the French.

[–] MovingThrowaway@hexbear.net 0 points 3 months ago

I've heard it with varying degrees of the R sound. There's a common shorthand "bougie" (BOO-zhee) that people often hear before learning the original term, so they'll maintain the pronunciation into BOO-zhwa.

Sometimes the R is slightly swallowed so it sounds more like BOH-zhwa, maybe very light throat vocalization. Or people skip over it and it's buh-ZHWA. Some commit fully for BOR-zhwa.

Universally seems to maintain (my non-native understanding of) the French "oi" and silent S.

I have yet to hear anyone pronounce it correctly: bor-gee-oice.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Remember, small impressionable children, oligarchy and rigged market capitalism is the only way, everything else is evil, and remember to compete against your fellow Americans to try to get more than them!

For our next lesson, critical thinking and reasoning! Just kidding, we don't do that here. It doesn't help to make you better laborers.

And now onto history, open your textbooks to page 33:

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Damn that picture is pissing me off lol

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Imagine what Native Americans must think of such depictions.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think it pisses them off too

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

For First Thanksgiving?

Most of that is believed to have happened or is so cloaked in mythos that any version is likely to be true if you're talking the American version.

Source, native. The women being there is the thing that's least likely to be true.

Nearly all of what historians have learned about one of the first Thanksgiving comes from a single eyewitness report: a letter written in December 1621 by Edward Winslow, one of the 100 or so people who sailed from England aboard the Mayflower in 1620 and founded Plymouth Colony in Massachusetts. William Bradford, Plymouth’s governor in 1621, wrote briefly of the event in Of Plymouth Plantation, his history of the colony, but that was more than 20 years after the feast itself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving

https://www.history.com/news/first-thanksgiving-colonists-native-americans-men

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

Well if they wanted to tell their side of the story, they should've won.

Not our fault they didn't invent guns or a bunch of diseases by domesticating livestock in population centers!

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of this scene in the big short:

Rabbi Scene

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago

I thought Jews were supposed to think critically about religion. After all, that's why Yahweh keeps the devil around, to question them.

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

my teacher last year was like this

[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 0 points 3 months ago

Me when the science teacher says the earth is round /s

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago