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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Huh? They launched plenty of Starlink satellites since March, they may not be enough to keep up with the shutdowns, but rockets have been going up.

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-log/

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah not to defend Elon or anything, but this post seems pretty misleading now that I'm looking into it. It doesn't look like they're failing to deploy satellites at all. They're up there and communicating with the ground based on every tracking site I'm looking at (including the one linked in the post). I don't know why the new satellites aren't being added to the network as soon as they're launched, but these satellites aren't dead so it seems way more likely to be a logistical choice rather than literally every satellite launched in the last 3 months immediately failing.

[–] lemmyisprettycool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You have a link to back up that statement?

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The fact that they've been launching satellites for months? Here's a Starlink satellite that launched last week I guess. You can search for Starlink in the catalog there and see tons of others in orbit as well from launches just over the past few weeks.Wikipedia also graphs all the Falcon 9 launch outcomes and it looks like they haven't had a failure to deploy a satellite to orbit since 2016?

Can you back up the claim that these satellites are failing before they've even been turned on? That seems like something that would be covered pretty extensively.

[–] lemmyisprettycool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm not contesting the rocket launches. The whole point is that the normal activation time is 3 days. It was the nearly the same for all of the versions. The V2 had the largest with 5 day activation time. The activation time on these is 90 days+. My point is he's trying to raise money to cover for the fact his activation time is now 90+ days.

[–] lemmyisprettycool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They get them up there but they are not being deployed.

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What does "deployed" mean in this context, then?

[–] lemmyisprettycool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I should have said "activated". I corrected it so people would understand.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Space X has over 1200 inactive satellites

I know they’re relatively small but 1200 seems like a lot to be up there doing nothing.

[–] lemmyisprettycool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Spaceflight now is a blurb talking about the launches. There's no evidence these satellites are active. No defense contractor is waiting three months for a deployment. Also, no amount of Elon shill upvotes will convince anyone you are right when you are clearly completely wrong.

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There aren't any defense contractors involved in this, it's a commercial internet service from a for-profit company. They can take as long as they want to activate their satellites as long as they're still communicating with the ground, which they are.

[–] lemmyisprettycool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

SpaceX is a defense contractor. They handle the majority of the United States govts. satellites. They are working with Northrup Grumman. They are definitely a defense contractor.

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fair, bad choice of words on my part. What I was trying to say is that Starlink isn't a government owned asset, it's a commercial product. While it has the potential for defense applications, the government has no reason to pressure them to activate satellites faster than SpaceX want to.

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Charge the fucker with space fly tipping.

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 0 points 4 months ago

Post of info on Tiblur by a now 3 hour old lemmy account

Ah, yes, oh so reliable

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yay more space trash in earth orbit

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At LEAST it's low orbit so it'll burn up (relatively) quickly.

[–] krimson@feddit.nl 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Does it burn up completely? Nothing gets left behind?

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's part of a Dragon capsule, not a Starlink satellite.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

ah. my bad.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 0 points 4 months ago

Hard to say, but with how few sizeable chunks of natural stone/metal meteors make it through it's tough to expect some relatively fragile satellites would survive the trip down.

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

We're only now starting to try and ensure spacecraft are designed in such a way that they completely break up.

Shape/size/material all have an impact on whether something completely breaks up

https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Preparing_for_the_Future/Discovery_and_Preparation/Design_for_demise_bringing_spacecraft_down_safely_and_efficiently

[–] decerian@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

After a few years the orbit will degrade enough that it'll start to fall back to earth. At that point, the satellite will either burn up completely on re-entry, or partially and the rest will fall to earth.

Either way, each of these satellites will be completely gone from orbit after a few years.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kessler Syndrome! Let's Go!

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thankfully, these things are at least too low to stay in orbit indefinitely like that

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Almost as if people thought ahead about this stuff.

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Wild concept, that planning ahead thing is

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did he finally wrest the reins from Gwynne Shotwell? She was calling the shots pretty effectively for a while.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is my question too. What changed?

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago

Nothing, this article is nonsense.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You've hit complete accuracy just with the first three words of your title. He's a massive failure that somehow people keep hyping and paying attention to.

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Failure? Not really.

He wouldn't be worth 230b if he was a failure.

Is he a lying, manipulative, vindictive person? Absolutely

[–] krimson@feddit.nl 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

https://satellitemap.space/starlink/launches.html

I hate Elon as much as the next guy but your post doesn’t make sense.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A few months back there was a guy spamming dubious or outright loonie "SpaceX is a total failure!" articles from this site, switching to new accounts to post from as each got banned.

Guess he's back.

[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yep this account is 3 hours old

[–] lemmyisprettycool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

70 upvotes on the post, try harder Elon Lol

[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't be so pathetic. I love to hate on Elon. He's disgusting to me. But you're shady AF and your arguments don't stand up to the facts.

[–] lemmyisprettycool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

My arguments are sourced by data directly from defense contractors. Take it up with them.

[–] lemmyisprettycool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Interesting, because Suspicious Observers reported on it because of the Lemmy post.

[–] lemmyisprettycool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

That just shows satellites in the air. Doesn't show if they are working. The normal activation time is 3 days. Not 3 months.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

False info. Reported for removal.

[–] lemmyisprettycool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Reported for false report.