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Pebble all over again.
I'm just not getting a smartwatch. I don't even trust Apple to keep supporting their watches after a couple of years.
Built-in obsolescence is bad enough. At the very least, these things should work until the hardware dies. Nope. Not anymore.
Pebble is still going pretty well though, so I don't know if that's a good comparison
Apart from a lack of an app store or online services...
A problem I deftly sidestepped by avoiding "smart" watches altogether.
Me too. I don't see the point. My life is already full of distractions and I bet the batteries in those are hard to replace when they inevitably don't hold charge any more.
Buy g-shock, know time. Good.
They're useful for people with sleep issues, and people who are trying to get fit or lose weight. The sleep and fitness tracking features are great for statistic nerds like me. Or people with a heart condition who don't want to carry a bulky ECG machine with them everywhere. But if you fall into neither of those categories, I can understand why you would say such a thing.
I don't go anywhere without my smartwatch. Only time I take it off is to shower and charge. Owning one has improved my life for the better. For example, I found out that I have sleep apnea because of my watch. And I can track whether or not my workouts are burning muscle or fat, and adjust accordingly.
Fair enough.
Garmin watches are semi-smart and have great sensors. My Epix 2 Sapphire runs for 11 days on a charge as well.
Tried a Pixel, returned it for refund. Don't use iPhone or Samsung phone so their bespoke software wouldn't work for me.
What phone do you use, if I may ask?
A Pixel, minor gripes with it. I'm considering a Samsung for my next one though, last non-pixel or Nexus phone I've used was a Samsung Note 2 over a decade ago.
Garmin Instinct 2 Solar gives me 31 days on a full charge if it doesn't get any sunlight. It is smart enough to vibrate me awake without waking my partner and receive notifications, no matter what Android/iOS phone I use.
What were your main gripes with the Pixel watch?
Now your comment has piqued my curiosity...I never considered a bigger smartwatch, and have kept myselft mostly to the Xiaomi band, which does more or less what I need it to...But I'm now curious how well does a Garmin cover the main points for me: -Read messages from SMS, Whatsapp, Telegram, etc (can I also reply to them, maybe voice-type or similar?) -Obviously tracking fitness, routes, heart rate and sleep etc it is probably way bounds out of the miband's league. -Can it pair to a headphone and use it to play music during a fitness run? Does it have esim support or similar to use data? (these are a clear no-no on the miband, but then again, heh...about 25 bucks it costed me!).
Hmmm the music storage... How does it work? Can you just send an mp3? Or does it need to be from a specific service? Bummer about the esim, I was wanting to rid of the phone while I'm out running.
Massive congratulations
I mean LOOK at everyone in this thread. "Muh TerribleCo SlaveBuilt 4 is only a week old and they've stopped pushing updates and the battery doesn't last the whole day anymore I have to charge it at lunch."
"What's it for?" "Text messages hit by brain 4 seconds faster."
Pinetime
Which I imagine like everything else Pine64 does will remain permanently in a state of "industry seconds some dead pixels are to be expected this is for developers and enthusiasts only no returns or refunds." I don't think they have any plans to ever bring a consumer ready product to market.
Everyone? Well let me be a change then. I love my smart watch. It vibrating wakes me up easier than alarm. Step and sleep tracking is really useful to me. While a gimmick sure, I really enjoy being able to update and change my watch face on a whim. Even with always on display, constant heart rate tracking and step tracking, my watch easily lasts 48 hours and charges within an hour while I'm in the bathroom getting ready in the morning. I get it's not for everyone but far cheaper than a Rolex and way more functionality.
There's not a vendor out there I trust with an always on internet connected EKG on my wrist.
Cool, good for you.
I don’t really give a shit who knows whether my heartbeat is irregular.
I like my Bangle.js 2.
Are they going to allow me to reflash it with whatever i want tho?
No. Why? Because, duck you, that's why.
Can we get Louis rossman onto it?
haha ha haaaaa
Perfect, now Google can kill Wear OS without fear of tizen taking it all.
Mission accomplished!
This is not about the smart tv tizen, no? I see the article talks about smartwatches. The naming on Samsung's side is confusing.
Nope, purely about the watch os
This is a huge problem for Samsung. This is proof they cannot maintain an OS, making them further dependent on Google. They chose a Linux compatible toolkit (EFL from Enlightenment) and tried making their own OS. It was terrible and filled with security holes.
I think they should rebase Tizen on PostMarketOS, as I don't believe Samsung can create their own base.
Of course they can't. It's gotten so bad they ship their TVs with antivirus on them. The only reason anyone uses their Android phones is they have the best hardware, most of their add-on software is just useless gimmicks people turn off. Tizen on watches was never going to work. Apple has a large enough ecosystem to attract app developers. Google has a large enough ecosystem to attract app developers. Samsung does not. Smartest thing they could do now is shut down their remaining software development. Ship the TVs with vanilla Google OS like LG, strip the bloatware off their phones, etc. They would lose face but their products would become way better.
Doesn’t LG use WebOS?
Or at least they did three years ago when I wanted to buy a TV but everything was back ordered to he’ll…
I used to develop smart TV apps, and Tizen / Orsay (older SS TV OS) we an absolute nightmare to develop for. LG's Web OS, and Android TV were so easy in comparison.
Casio gang report in!
Bad headline. They’re sunsetting Tizen for watches, but not other products.
Yeah, that’s what I read from the article itself.
Samsung switched from Tizen to WearOS literally 4 months after I got my Galaxy watch 2. That was annoying. $200 is way too much to spend on such a short-lived product.
Lame. WearOS is laggy garbage. My Watch 2 Active was way more responsive and functional than my Watch ~~3~~ 4 Classic is. Animations stutter constantly and half the time it doesn't even react to my touch. Bring back Tizen.
There are still issues with WearOS, but I think some of that is hardware. Last I heard, Qualcomm's wearable SoCs were trash, but Samsung is in a good position since they have both the SoC fab and make the watch itself.
Many industries are shifting to a model where Android is the de facto OS for consumer-facing interactions. It's not well optimized outside of phones yet, but it is rapidly improving. Many cars run Android now, for example.
I'm moderately optimistic about the next generation of WearOS devices.
WearOS, at least the Samsung variant of it, is goddamned awful. It seems to want to be a full standalone device when I want it to just be an extension of my phone, and it's an extension of my phone when I want it to stand alone. Worst of both worlds.
I miss my Pebble. Week-long battery, truly always-on-screen, and knew what it was trying to be (just show me notifications)
I remember Samsung trying to run a WWDC-like conference in San Francisco many years ago. They were offering free Tizen watches as enticement for developers to show up (AppleWatch devs had to buy their own). None of the professional mobile devs I knew back then said they would go.
As Microsoft found out with WindowsPhone, it's really hard to get traction if you're third.
Furtunately (at least for the users), gadgetbridge exists.
As far as I know, gadgetbridge does not support tizenOS smartwatches
Isn't tizen also on their smart TVs?
Yes, but this article and the sources only say this is impacting their watches.
LOL! And that is why I didn't get one.
