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[–] AkaneKurokawa@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

The only real medicine for AI nightmare, is having your own local and trained model. Like a 7B or above that. I read a lot about it, go to network chuck youtube channel, he teaches you how to set up and run your own AI based on yourself, that never shares information, it's open-source and it runs even in a laptop.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (4 children)

It's not AI that is the problem, it's half baked insecure data harvesting products pushed by big corporations that are the problem.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is an accurate description of AI in common usage even if it isn't an inherent aspect of AI.

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 0 points 8 months ago

Right, but AI is not the only way they're doing the data collection.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 8 months ago (9 children)

The biggest joke is that the LLM in Windows is running locally, it uses your hardware and not some big external server farm. But you can bet your ass that they still use it to data harvest the shit out of you.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Runs locally, mirrors remotely.

To ensure a seamless customer experience when their hardware isn't capable of running the model locally or if there is a problem with the local instance.

microsoft, probably.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 8 months ago (5 children)

To me this is even worse though. They're using your electricity and CPU cycles to grab the data they want which lowers their bandwidth bills.

It happening "locally" while still sending all the metadata home is just a slap in the face.

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

You wrote AI twice.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Locally run AI could be great. But sending all your data to an external server for processing is really, really bad.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 0 points 8 months ago (10 children)

I would hope that Apple would aim their AI more at iOS and leave Mac OSX alone:-|. If not, I would consider finally leaving it, if the AI features could not be turned off (which likely they would... at first, for awhile).

Oh man, the thought strikes me: how will crucial systems like DoD Windows machines maintain integrity, if people can exploit those gigantic loopholes to basically have the OS be a keylogger? It's not enough for me to use secure systems at home, if those in charge of our nation's defense (especially nuclear!?) do not.

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[–] jackiechan@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (4 children)

All the AI garbage from M$ is what made me finally make the swap a couple weeks ago to Linux Mint on my personal desktop. I only use my PC for gaming/entertainment, so the switch was super easy. Can’t recommend it enough if you’re wanting to get away from Windows!

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

It’s advertising more than AI for me. Everything you do in Windows is monetized by selling your preferences to advertisers. Shameful.

[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago

One of us! One of us! One of us!

For real though, good on ya. It takes a little getting used to, but is so worth it in the long run to not have to fight against the profit-driven whims of a megacorp. It's also so much more customizable if you want to put together a really specific workflow for yourself.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (12 children)

"The Year Of Linux on Desktops". Been hearing this for decades, but it might actually be happening. What I'm feeling now is the same thing I felt when Mozilla originally split Firefox out, and made the first real competition to corporate browsers as a free product. People don't want all this bullshit, and want to retain control over the machines they are working on. Seems a lot more people are interested in FOSS environments now just to avoid all the other BS they hate getting shoveled at them.

[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (4 children)

“The Year Of Linux on Desktops”. Been hearing this for decades, but it might actually be happening.

Been hearing this for decades.

[–] randomname01@feddit.nl 0 points 8 months ago (13 children)

And it won’t ever be true until you can pick up a PC running Linux in a big box store. I could see the Steam Deck (and Valve’s rumoured upcoming console) to make a dent in the PC gaming space, but it won’t make a difference to the purchasing decisions of your your aunt who uses her pc to check her emails.

Should corporate buyers ever get tired of MS’ shenanigans they might switch over to Ubuntu, but I’m not holding my breath for that.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks to the Steamdeck Linux users on Steam now outnumber Mac users. Still a tiny percentage of total Steam users but if developers increase support we will hopefully see that number take off.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

All the larger PC manufacturers do offer Ubuntu at least. There was a time when Best Buy was selling them from Dell and Lenovo, but I'm sure the staff couldn't sufficiently explain the "why", and it was also at a time when more technology illiterate folks were the purchasers. That's not the case anymore, but I guess we will see how/if it shifts at all.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (12 children)

At work, we have a strict ban on purchasing any laboratory equipment that requires Windows. After about a year, several of our suppliers have been pressured to offer Linux support, precisely because we don’t have time for windows shenanigans on a $100k piece of advanced benchtop hardware. We just got our first oscilloscope with Red Hat preinstalled.

Also, regular people aren’t buying PCs as much as they used to. The PC is now a workplace and enthusiast device. Everyone else uses mobile.

[–] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The oldest version of Win I used was 95 about 2 years ago on chromatography machine (I think hplc or gas).

It is to my knowledge still in use in the school because the software don't run on newer machines. The teacher told me that he don't know what will he do when it dies. It isn't really an issue on Linux.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It might be worth trying it in Wine. It has great support for older software especially.

Within the past year I have compiled new software for Windows 98.

In a lab environment, it’s important to strictly control software versions and understand thoroughly what gets updated. We also want the ability to use the same version of software indefinitely if it meets our needs.

[–] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago

I think that there are more issues like archaic connectors and stuff like that. You can't find new hardware with 30yo standard io.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

O&G still uses a lot of old versions as well. I remember back in the Win 7 days when I had to set up a 95 virtual machine and register a bunch of DLLs by hand plus set up a fake A: drive because even the 95 version of the software was garbage. A friend of mine did something similar but he got it working on the Win 7 machine somehow. I never understood how, but he left a script behind at the company he worked for because it needed to be reinstalled every time someone did something stupid and he didn't want to do it by hand.

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[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue the year of the Linux desktop passed years ago and now it's just a saturation game. Most serious SW development is now on Linux laptops/desktops, Android owns the mobile space and versions are starting to make huge inroads in the laptop space. You can buy gaming systems running it trivially now.

Conversely, casual users of windows are dying off, fewer non technical people are using desktops for anything at all. Only institutional users are buying Windows keys and they're some of the easiest to get on Linux because of the cost savings, particularly if you run Linux server infrastructure, a fight we already won over a decade ago.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Most serious SW development is now on Linux laptops/desktops,

I'd love a source for this. To my knowledge, most people that build to Linux hosts still use OSX.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

a good indication is Microsoft making WSL at all

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Source: I'm a super pro serious developer and I use Linux. QED if you don't also use Linux, you're not serious.

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[–] aniki@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Decades ago it was a funny joke. Now it's the most popular handheld OS on the planet by a huge margin. Linux is damn EVERYWHERE except the desktop now, and it's only a matter of time.

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[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

People may not want it but most don't know, care enough to adjust, or are just generally complacent. I mean, I DO care and find it hard to move to Linux due to lack of support for some of my work tasks.

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[–] JovialSodium@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I can easily believe these types of continued enshittification will help drive more users to Linux desktop usage. But that will still be a small percent.

People have to know and care about the problem and then be willing to put in the effort to understand what to do. That combination is pretty limiting.

I'd love to be proven wrong, though.

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[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The counterpoint are people like this, the feature they want is built on extreme data gathering. https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a8fec90b-c349-46c9-8592-5dbe17ea4c8c.jpeg

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 8 months ago

Technically you could have such data gathered and stored locally, without sending them to big corpo. Privacy friendly "AI" is very much possible, it's just not favorable to those companies because they see those models as a tool and the data as what ends up making them money.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

There is no year of Linux desktop, it just keeps trucking and growing

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jako301@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

As long as even basic features like push notifications are locked behind Google services, I'd hardly count that as a win. The Google monopoly on android is even worse than the Microsoft monopoly on PCs. Microsoft has at least some good alternative with the current Linux environment, but Googles only competitor is apple with an even worse system.

Sure there are projects like LinageOS and GraphenOS, but both are still reliant on micro G or containerised Goggle apps.

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[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Great article, but:

"A user-friendly distribution like Ubuntu can be an excellent choice for individuals wary of privacy and ethical issues surrounding AI," says Taylor. "It provides a robust and user-friendly environment that minimizes the tracking and data collection you’d typically encounter with macOS or Windows."

It's been quite a few years since I used desktop Ubuntu, but I remember the Unity DE back then being not so user-friendly, at least for someone coming from the Windows paradigm. I've heard (but could be misinformed) that it's gotten even more opinionated over the years. Something like Mint is likely to be a better option for a first-time user.

Also, I wish the article had mentioned Proton. It states that you may have to be willing to abandon certain games, but that's far from the reality these days. At least through Steam nearly everything works right out of the box just by enabling Proton.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Ubuntu uses Gnome now, not Unity, right? Mint would be better though I do agree.

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[–] Jako301@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

The majority of people play at least some competitive games and most of those simply don't work due to anticheats. These game usually are also the most important ones to them.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Mint, which uses Cinnamon, or any KDE based distro. Since both desktop environments kinda have the same classic Windows layout & functionality that people would be used to.

As for games, it is mostly competitive pvp titles with their anticheat systems that don't work, which is purely on the developers of said games. If you're playing just regular multiplayer or singleplayer games then that's typically not a concern at all.

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Alternate title: "Linux lags on implementing AI features."

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (7 children)

...Linux is open source, if you wanted/didn't want AI you could just install a distribution that has/ doesn't have it.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 8 months ago

Don't bother. That troll has the dumbest takes on other topics too.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you remember when you could put your Mac to sleep, and when you woke it up a few days later, the battery would barely have dropped? Not now, because your computer never really sleeps anymore.

I assume that the Mac has some kind of hibernation function, and that that will reduce the battery drop to effectively zero.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Waking from hibernation is sooo much slower than waking from sleep. Apple silicon macs are very efficient in their S0 standby so they'll go days before entering hibernation. Kinda odd that they bring that up now that Apple has fully transitioned to ARM machines where this isn't really an issue. That said S0 standby on this 2019 Macbook I have for work is dogshit.

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[–] frankgrimeszz@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I can’t read the article because of a full screen Cookie Choices pop-up that I can’t dismiss. ☠️

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] JovialSodium@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Ublock origin has cookie banner filters. I didn't have this problem, I assume that's why.

Edit: autocorrect

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