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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

He’s still a unit!

[–] ProcurementCat@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Geee fucking attack the Baltics and Poland already. We all know you want to and are stupid enough to actually try, eventually.

I just want them to start as soon as possible, because that means NATO will intervene sooner and end this slaughter of Ukrainians.

I'm sick of just watching how dictators decide the fate of millions. Draft me, train me, do this with a million other people from NATO countries, send us over there and end this goddamn stupid shit.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do you want a nuclear war? Because this is how you get a nuclear war.

I want the war in Ukraine to stop, I'm just not confident a direct conflict between Russia and NATO is our best option because we know Putin is willing to order a nuclear strike if he gets desperate, and nobody wants that to happen.

[–] ProcurementCat@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

See, I'm pretty chill about the prospect of "nuclear war" because I know that

Oh, and in case you didn't notice: It's Putin who wants to invade Poland and the Baltics. Not me.

If even 10% of Russia's nuclear missiles work, we're (the West) in a really bad spot.

That said, if Putin invades a NATO country, I think NATO should use any means necessary to neutralize Russia's nuclear capability.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think a failed land grab in Eastern Europe will make the Kremlin suicidal? Come on

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think Putin will attack Poland or anyone in NATO, nor do I think he will use nukes as long as he doesn't risk losing everything.

But we should always assume that he will use nukes if he gets desperate.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

No we shouldn't. We can think that's a possibility, but assuming that he will is simply bad policy.

Also, he can't simply "press the red button" because he gets upset.

[–] fist_of_fartitude@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We don't know that Putin is willing to order a nuclear strike if he gets desperate. They want everyone to think that because they hope it makes people afraid of interfering in their shitty behavior.

Apparently, it's effective on at least some people.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We don't know that he won't. I think he would if his position was threatened, or the Russian people faced certain loss.

Works like a charm

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Sounds a lot like Putin preparing for yet another false flag.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Putin will remind Lukashenko that tribute is required in the form of virgin humans, not just virgin mammals of any species.

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That’s how they get ya

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