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[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate basically all youtube links on Lemmy, it seems like this is "reading" social media, not "watching" social media.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've just started downvoting anything that looks like it's promoting a YouTube channel. I don't want a five or ten minute video communicating something I can read in thirty seconds.

[–] speck@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago

Okay so I'm not insane

I don't want a five or ten minute video communicating something I can read in thirty seconds.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's video oriented communities, just like on reddit.

Otherwise, yeah, exactly. The whole reason I enjoyed the reddit communities was reading not watching or listening.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Agreed.

And don't forget to upvote and favourite this comment. It really helps me make more comments just like this one.

[–] eruchitanda@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

I partially disagree. It depends on *why* they sent the link.

If it's totally out of nowhere, I agree; if someone asks a question and their channel/video answer the question? Feel free to advertise yourself.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Whew, boy, that escalated quickly 🤣

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

OP was speedrunning Lemmy

[–] Denatured@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does that mean? Their post is still showing here? Kind of completely new to this platform. It's so intriguing and alive. I don't think I'm going to miss reddit one bit.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’ve been banned from interacting in the future, which is a separate thing from their posts & comments being deleted. They’re banned from their own instance, too:

[–] Denatured@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Ohhh! I see. Much obligated. Thx for letting me know.

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

My favorite app.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Wonder how that went down with OP never even having posted or commented on their home instance.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only reason advertising was banned on reddit was so they could monetize. If the content is relevant to the community, I don't care if the person sharing it created it. I appreciate the submission.

Let the votes decide the quality of the content.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really care if someone shares their own content as a participating member of the community, but these people are dwarfed by those who just spam their links to every community on Lemmy that bares even the slightest amount of relevance.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You dont know that tho. I have multiple lemmmy accounts. Most if them are anonymous, but when I post my own content, I use my real name.

The only thing I use my "real name" Lemmy account for is self - promotion, but that doesn't mean I dont participate with other accounts.

Folks have the right to anonymity.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would you run, for example, a programming based YouTube channel, but not want to use that same account when interacting with the community on topics of programming? You have a right to anonymity, but people also have the right to block you if you only use that account to spam links in different communities with no other engagement because there's nothing to differentiate you from all the bots doing the same thing for different reasons.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My point is you shouldn't make assumptions. Just because you can't track all of my activity doesn't mean I'm a bot.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Why would you expect to get treated any differently by complete strangers online if you do absolutely nothing to differentiate yourself from all the bots spamming the place? What you're suggesting is that they stop moderating these communities simply because "you shouldn't make assumptions."

[–] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More than posting their own channels or doing it on an anti-privacy website, I am annoyed by the medium itself. Even if it's a topic of interest, videos can become really tedious depending on the author with no practical way to get around it, plus very little accessibility; it's always more convenient in text.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago

Some would argue it's more accessible in video format. Personally I think it's best to write an article and then do a breif video summary that links to the article "for more info"

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago
[–] random65837@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It's a hard angle, on one end obviously YT sucks and people need to be aware of other platforms, BUT if you really want to spread the knowledge of privacy to people that are unaware, there's no choice but to use it. That said, a person actually into privacy should also be uploading those videos to privacy respecting platforms, and those are what should be linked here and in any privacy respecting place.

I literally saw a dude linking to a FACEBOOK video, talking about how to avoid data miners LOL. Sad, but again, those are the people that need to be made aware! It's a tricky one.

[–] Lodra@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well I guess I can offer a dissenting opinion on this one. YouTube video links are fine on Lemmy? I like watching a short video or two each day?

Yes, YouTube sucks for privacy. So I don’t have an account and use Firefox Focus to be anonymous. I do wish there were better alternatives to YouTube.

I don’t like ads and that includes people advertising a channel. But I haven’t personally seen this happen much on Lemmy. Maybe not all. I guess I don’t see why it needs to be banned.

Anyone else seeing things this way? Or am I missing something?

Edit:

I’ve thought about it more. I think I was indeed missing something. Is the complaint referring to all the posts that contain nothing but a YouTube link?

If that’s the case, I guess it’s a valid complaint. Doesn’t really bother me though. I just scroll on by the posts that don’t interest me

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Somewhat private way to watch YouTube: Piped. I believe the piped bot comments under everything with a YouTube link with an alternative link anyway. Just use that.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

Complerly agreed, except that YouTube has privacy issues if you know how to protect yourself.

One of the reasons I love YouTube is that there's no authwall, and there's tons of alternative front ends... So it's completely anonymous

[–] Jakdracula@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Yes! That’s why I did a YouTube series about this very issue on my channel, go here and smash that subscribe link and find me on patreon too!

[–] OrkneyKomodo@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was considering blocking all posts containing youtube links. No-one wants some opionated arse-monger broadcasting to them in bed.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 0 points 1 year ago

There are folks on YouTube that cite their sources. Don't ban the platform just because many of the uses suck.

[–] jeffhykin@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Videos can* provide better privacy explanations (ex: animating asymmetric key exchange) The videos that get posted on here, well...

How about banning video essays?

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This. It depends on the source. Always consider the source.

Even a video essay can be credible, if they cite their sources

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago

Its not the advertising that annoys me. Its the links to YouTube with very little context

[–] PeeGee@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Agreed - I just had to block the user that’s been loading up the place with his YT links but that cleaned up my feed quite nicely. Suggest a ban for that one too (didn’t want to name anyone but should be painfully obvious by looking at recent activity).