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Update…Per Microsoft’s instructions, disabled all tracking protections in Safari and requested desktop mode and it works. Their instructions say turn protections back on after using teams… 😐
Funny enough it works in Safari and not Edge…tho that may be Apple’s fault since all browsers are somewhat just versions of Safari, last I heard…
I just dont understand how any company can use a product as broken as teams.
It comes with the Office subscription. People who choose it are not the ones using it daily.
My company's IT department tried to push Teams since we pay for it either way. The rest of the company revolted and stayed on Slack.
I've been in an interview and the hiring manager wanted to have a call in Teams. Didn't take that job.
This fucking mentality. "Let's use this thing that's free instead of paying 50 dollars/month, the people who have to work with this can get their asses fucked!"
The business/work version of Teams isn't free, you're paying for it as part of the 365 subscription.
That's part of why there's a push to use Teams: companies see it as already paying for it, so might as well use it.
And of course there's the constant barrage of fear mongering coming out of the security crowd that says the only sensible, secure thing to do is bring absolutely every fucking thing into a native 365 app. Because they fail to notice that the attack surface they're so concerned about is a healthy software market.
Now imagine being a freelance developer, who works for more than two clients, using Teams with different email addresses.
It's a horror!
It comes with office for free. That's how.
I'm not a huge fan of Teams, as it lacks critical features that alternatives have. But I've never experienced anything that would make me say it's broken. What exactly are you referring to?
If you are part of two organizations you can't log into both at once, and switch between them. You need to log out and log back in. The way you test your mic and speakers is incredibly stupid and slow. It's also a disorganized mess.
I’m not a huge fan of Teams, as it lacks critical features that alternatives have. But I’ve never experienced anything that would make me say it’s broken. What exactly are you referring to?
If you aren't part of an organization, and need to join another groups team temporarily, its a complete clusterfuck. I'm not sure what exactly they are doing with cookies, but if you have to work with multiple teams, its shocking how bad it is.
Also, the chat/ zoom feature for video conferencing; I've never had it 'just work'. There is always someone who has an issue getting it to function correctly. It regularly drops video or audio or both. I'm like, actually shocked that a company like MS can't make basic functional software.
I use teams for work and have not had a single problem in the almost three years I’ve been with the company. We have teams phones and pretty much all teams licensing. I’ve had lots of problems with zoom and go to meeting. Especially with GoToMeeting when I was managing a citrix environment.
I've been using it daily for two years and I've had pretty much nothing but problems. It'll sit in the background and sleep or something, and then I'll get five hundred messages dropping in all at once. I put teams on my work phone on the side so I can see if someone messages me.
Sometimes messages don't come through on the PC client, but they can be sent from it, meaning if I look at a chat on my phone it looks normal, but on my PC it looks like I'm talking to myself.
Video calls make all the shadows in the OS flicker. There's a lot of shadows now, never gave them a second thought before.
The app has a tendency to spontaneously log me out during things, and then refuse to log back in unless I reboot.
Sometimes it doesn't detect my camera or microphone.
Sometimes during calls the buttons stop working. If I'm sharing my desktop, I can't stop sharing. If I'm muted, I can't unmute myself. If my video is off, I can't turn it on. If I want to close the rubbish and restart, I'll need to go through task manager.
Not a big fan.
It integrates or something, idfk. Part of the Microsoft suite so we all get it by default. No, don't ask why licenses just got more expensive, I promise its free.
I can field this. The answer is simple: they don't. They use Slack internally.
In Microsoft's defense I phones don't have proper web browsers. They are all the same under the hood
Yeah, this might be it. For anyone not aware, every browser on iOS is just safari with a different skin and some plugins to work with whatever ecosystem you actually are trying to use.
That are two capital NOs from me:
Lemmy has a serious boner for hating on Microsoft.
Teams is exceptional in being terrible.
I was totally over trash talking MS stuff until Teams came along and reminded me just how terrible they can be when they have a market segment cornered.
When it works it’s alright. Interfaces with the rest of office. But Microsoft literally breaks it all the time…it’s never been more broken then when I updated to Windows 11 today. Literally spent 6 fucking hours on updates, reboots, uninstalls and reinstalls. When I logged off and went home I was still using the damn web version because windows updates were immediately breaking anything tech support fixed. I got paid for doing very little but really frustrating day.
Agreed but also fuck teams.
i hate MS, Google, Amazon, Apple ..... FOSS or bust fuck these robber barron birches
I've been using computers for well over 30 years. Teams is an unintuitive pile of shit.
If they would actually fix their shit then we would probably be less critical of it but right now it is a pile of steaming garbage
Yes we have
~~Lemmy~~ the internet has a serious boner for hating on Microsoft.
you must be new here
True but with good reason. I hate Microsoft and my job is implementing their stuff.
My colleagues are all hyped up about Ignite later this month, it's disgusting, like a cult. And they're constantly spamming LinkedIn full of Microsoft headlines like good corporate drones.
Teams, when used within a single Org, works great. For 3rd party interaction, or working for multiple Orgs I would highly recommend almost any other product.
The intra-org integration with SharePoint and document management/data retention is very good.
But nonsense like what OP is experiencing is why even I, as the senior MS Support SysAdmin at my employer, refuse to use Microsoft Office products on my personal Android phone.
If they want/need me to do that, they can give me a dedicated phone just for that purpose. MS MAM is never touching my personal equipment in a million years.
OP is stuck between a rock and a crap place.
I was hired during the pandemic and Teams has been my main way of interacting with my employer and co-workers since 2021. I like it OK most days but Microsoft likes to release updates that break things several times a year. Oh…I like this new feature! And…an update broke it
You know what's great about Microsoft Teams compared to other chat apps? It's super on point with updating your colleague's status. There've been times I thought my colleague was MIA for hours, but turns out, it was just a glitch. A quick restart with the app and boom, we're back in sync! 🤪
Grey circle = they were fired 😂
I have to use that garbage teams app every f****** day and I hate it. I'm glad I have an android phone and actually have some choice with regard to my browser.
They say it is rewritten and in reality it has the exact same bugs and issues as before. Kudos to the product manager who managed to sale it as new
They don't even let you log in if your browser is set to block third party cookies. Fuck Microsoft.
Do you have a "Use Desktop Mode" on iPhone browsers?
Ah…after 15 minutes of fucking around I was able to get it to work only after disabling all tracking prevention at Microsoft’s direction and clearing all browser history and requesting desktop website. Their instructions say to turn tracking protections back on when you are done using teams browser version…
Now I can go online and tell my team windows 11 is still installing. Hurray! 😂
Didn't you know? With Microsoft products those trackers are required. The app just wouldn't be able to function if they couldn't track everything you typed into it. You should really be more thoughtful of Microsoft and how you're being a big meany by not giving them your data.
Glad you got it fixed. It really grinds my gears that so many big companies have taken their lightweight and usable mobile interfaces and borked them, replacing it with a page saying "Use our app 🤭", then the app is just the mobile page in a webview wrapper for the majority of functions.
Good guy MS, protecting you from webkit? 🤔
AFAIK it has something to do with the weird rerouting they do during the login process. I had issues using containers in Firefox for a while, too. Though nowadays it works, both on mobile and on desktop.
I work in the tech support field and Microsoft is making me want to quit and find a work that doesn't involve using Teams. I've never liked them very much and been a Linux user for over 20 years, but I still have to deal with them for work. However they're becoming increasingly difficult to tolerate.
They really really want Windows users to have a Microsoft account. I avoid that and prefer local accounts. But Microsoft likes to link my local account with my Microsoft account anyway, because I need to give it to them to play Minecraft on Windows. So now even if I didn't want to, my Windows account is showing the picture of my Microsoft/Windows Gaming account profile because I must have passed over a box to uncheck somewhere while logging into Windows Gaming to play Minecraft... mildly infuriating Microsoft.
I used a personal laptop for work a few times and accidentally connected my OneDrive to my corporate account. Again, I must have misunderstood the configuration and login process because it synced (more like moved) all my personal files on my work's OneDrive. Mildly infuriating Microsoft.
Same personal laptop used for work sometimes. I use Edge specifically to separate work from personal browsing and somehow, again, I logged in somewhere with my work account and it synced all my personal browsing history and saved passwords from a different browser, into my "Edge for business" online thigny. So when I was using Edge at work, on my work computer, it was suggesting me logins and passwords from my personal browser that I use on different computers. Mildly infuriating Microsoft.
Teams, OneDrive, Edge for business, their subscription model, forcing Microsoft accounts... individually they are mildly infuriating but combined together, let's say it's a powerful generator of rolling eyes.