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To get rid of the annoying YouTube message (ad blocker are not allowed on Youtube) use this custom filter in uBlock extension

  1. Open uBlock extension dashboard
  2. Open my filters tab
  3. Copy & Paste this code into my filter
  4. Apply changes and close all tabs

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[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 177 points 1 year ago (13 children)

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GOOG/alphabet/gross-profit

Alphabet gross profit for the quarter ending June 30, 2023 was $42.688B, a 7.85% increase year-over-year.

Alphabet gross profit for the twelve months ending June 30, 2023 was $160.503B, a 1.7% increase year-over-year.

Alphabet annual gross profit for 2022 was $156.633B, a 6.77% increase from 2021.

Alphabet annual gross profit for 2021 was $146.698B, a 50.01% increase from 2020.

Alphabet annual gross profit for 2020 was $97.795B, a 8.71% increase from 2019.

Huh, they seemingly have money to not fuck our eyes without lube for ads, but I guess they somehow just don't have enough money, 156 billion dollars is really nothing after all. Probably more money in between my couch cushions. Such a small indie company that has to struggle to remain afloat, like an Etsy store.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 1 year ago

MUST APPEASE THE GOD OF CAPITALISM AND THE ALMIGHTY SHAREHOLDERS!

[–] Tak@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, Capitalism.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago

Of course they don't have enough money

The goal is (as always) to have all the money

[–] Conwork@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

This phenomenon is normally created by a bunch of mid level people without many stock options trying to get promotions. They need the big arrow to go up to get a good raise, be recognized, etc in their individual business units.

The people pushing things to go up are typically not motivated by the gross number as much as they are making their boss happy enough to pay them more. That's why the change is all that matters.

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yes but does YouTube it's self make money? There isn't a reason to run a section of your company if it costs you money.

I am not justifying 17 ads in a 10 minute video, but no company keeps a product that doesn't make money

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There isn't a reason to run a section of your company if it costs you money.

It's funny that you say this, because Google intentionally ran YouTube without making any profit from it for many years. The goal (which they succeeded in) was to starve out any competition and establish YouTube as the online video monopoly. Ever since establishing that monopoly, they've been squeezing more and more money out of the platform knowing that social inertia will work against any would-be competitors (everything is on YouTube, all of the content creators are on YouTube, all of the viewers are on YouTube, so how does someone convince enough people to move to another platform?).

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

That's how they're able to pull this anti-adblock nonsense, in fact. If they hadn't killed off all competitors, everyone would just be going to them.

[–] grumpyrico@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True but data collection is still done and generates $$$

Think about gmail & Google docs

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[–] TheLurker@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes there is a reason to run a part of your business at a loss. It is well known market strategy and it is called a Loss Leader.

You offer a product or services at a loss because it helps you generate more revenue in another part of your business.

And plenty of companies keep products that don't make money, because they are Loss Leaders into products that do make money.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_leader

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[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 163 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I could tolerate ONE ad per video, at the beginning, but 3 or 4 ads in a less than ten minute video? Fuck that.

[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You see YouTube is a American company and in America every thing is extreme you ether have a lot of ads or no ads you can have a extremely massive car or a cat that's soo small it doesn't exist

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But... But... What If I want a large cat and a tiny car?

I want my leopard riding shotgun in my smart car.

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[–] raubarno@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I could only tolerate ElectroBoom-style "This video is sponsored by oscilloscope company" ads.

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[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's the thing.

You're already proud to lower your standards, why not lower them further?

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[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 92 points 1 year ago (9 children)

This entire shitty ad model these companies have pushed onto the net needs to go. Seriously. Find a better way to monetize your world.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 91 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's not even just the Internet. Marketing fucks up every aspect of our civilization. We can't even handle having a professional election anymore without trashy ads and people acting like children. You can't even watch legitimate news anymore. ...nevermind mind whack kids pranking people on YouTube being used and turning into assholes for YouTube monetization.

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[–] Norgur@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

This answer confuses me. The message on that pop up is "buy YouTube premium, so you won't be stuck in our ad supported model" and now we're ranting that they need to find another model to finance themselves? Isn't YouTube premium exactly that?

[–] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Paying to remove ads is part of the ad business model. Upset your customer enough until they give you money to make it stop. Once you pay to remove the ads you have rewarded them for implementing ads which lets them know that implementing ads was a great way at making money.

So YouTube premium is not another model. It is the same model. Another model is paying for a service that never had ads at all such as NebulaTV or CuriosityStream.

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[–] Kuro@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're right, but premium is too expensive. They make a pittance per ad view, but expect a user to pay $14/m to get rid of them? The math doesn't math.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

They simultaneously introduced this ad blocker change and took away the $5 no-ads package.

This is a shakedown and it's been happening across many streaming platforms for a while now.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't mind ads as a concept. The issue is how invasive and numerous they've become. Get back to the days when ads were just banners around the actual content or an easily skippable video that plays before what I'm trying to watch and I'll happily disable my ad blocker for you. Unfortunately hardly anyone does that anymore because they view it as a missed opportunity to make even more money.

I'm not against using ads to support websites but it's the same basic concept as piracy. If you make the experience of playing by the rules so unbearable that it seems easier to go out of my way to break them then I probably will.

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[–] NiaTheCat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 81 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The funny thing is I wouldn't mind watching their ads if they weren't annoying with them. If the ads were only at the start of a video, not during, and no still image banner at the bottom I have to click X on on desktop. I don't want to actively dismiss anything while I'm watching the video, I want to relax and watch it.

They don't allow me to sit and enjoy the videos without babysitting them to skip after the timer, so that's why I block their ads with absolutely no compromise anymore.

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah. Nah.

I shouldn't have to watch any ads on an already-profitable product. Accepting less is just me lowering my standards so people richer than me can be even richer.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's more than that. Would you devote 1-5% of your PC resources to others while you watch a video, if you could watch a video without ads? Yes. I bet so.

We are able to easily shoulder the burdens of hosting, yet Google wants to dominate us and force us to use their hosting at the psychological cost of being their sponge for anyone's paid information campaign. YouTube in 2016 was non-stop Trump ads. Non fucking stop.

FUCK Google.

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[–] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

How dare you try to bridle unbridled capitalism

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[–] Amity_Noceda@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They're going to randomize all vars and function names, mark my words.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Yup. Ad blockers work on pattern matching rules. Countering them might take some work but it's not impossible - make the URLs that do the bad shit indistinguishable from the ones that make the video works and likewise html elements. Randomise everything, make the paths to things unpredictable. I'm sure YouTube could even merge the ads into the content stream so they are unavoidable.

[–] abcxyz@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I'm sure YouTube could even merge the ads into the content stream so they are unavoidable."

Who is going to tell him?

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[–] spiderman@ani.social 11 points 1 year ago

it will be an interesting cat and mouse game or people will start to shift to another video sharing platform

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Of course they are, for example when targeting HTML elements you generally need to target text not vars or function names.

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How long until youtube add an anti-anti-anti-adblocker?

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[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago
[–] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago

I miss 3 days ago when the blockade was just some HTML

[–] A10@kerala.party 20 points 1 year ago

Let the cat and mouse games begin!!!! Thanks for the heads up though

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Anytime you all want to go back to making your own websites

Anytime

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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

Get your FreeTube subs set up and ready to go. https://freetubeapp.io/

[–] mouth_brood@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is the any way to add something like this to my pihole to block all this shit network wide?

[–] denissimo@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pihole, if i understand correctly, works by blocking DNS requests and YouTube ads are not DNS based the way ads usually are. You're stuck blocking them by uBO on each device or use Invidious.

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[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Semi-related: what's a good frontend for android TV? I'm loving NewPipe on my phone, but on the TV it refuses to work in full screen and often in not-full screen too..

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

SmartTubeNext is your best bet, I think Libretube devs will be working on landscape support too sometime, but that's probably very far away

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[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had this code saved and had suggested it to others before but now I didn't take my own advice and had been struggling with those pop-ups for the past few days. I hope this solves it.

EDIT: Doesn't work. Still got the popup despite having all other extensions disabled and uBlock on default settings

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