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cross-posted from: https://vlemmy.net/post/152995

Alternative published title: AT&T/Verizon lobby group pushes for payments from Big Tech

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[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Great idea. They've taken advantage of cheap publicily subsidized infrastructure for far too long while making obscene profits. This is a great idea, as long as the infrastructure itself and the operator/service provider is collectivized as well.

Can we collectivize big tech while we're at it?

[–] kulta@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

So ISPs are charging an arm and a leg, but they're saying others should pay? I'd love to be in a business where someone else pays for my business expenses and I keep the revenue.

[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not from the states so I don't have no skin in the game, but correct me if I'm wrong, weren't ISPs responsible for upgrading the country's network, given a large amount of money, and just sat on their asses or something? I remember something to that effect.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, they got almost half a TRILLION dollars from tax payers in various forms to roll out nationwide fiber, but did not roll out nationwide fiber. Never mind the absolutely ludicrous prices they charge along with crazy bullshit like data caps, throttling, and lying about advertised speeds.

[–] 133arc585@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This type of logic only makes sense in the case of public utilities, not privately owned companies.

What do they think we're paying for? I don't see how the non-amortized costs (ie, non-infrastructure-buildout costs) could ever approach the amount they pull in revenue. This also ignores the fact that the telcos have gotten somewhere in the double-digit billions of dollars (iirc, around $40B) in taxpayer money to build out fiber infrastructure, that they never delivered on. What are they using this money for? What are they using their subscription revenue for?

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are mistaken: It's not over 40 billion, it's over 400 billion.

[–] 133arc585@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the correction, I almost wish I didn't know how bad it was!