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[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Part of the reason why I’ve recommended US based services to my Canadian clients was because of its speed due to proximity. Now that net neutrality has been gutted and ISPs are free to artificially slow down their services a la carte, the speed advantage is questionable. Now I recommend services in Canada where I find them and European alternatives when no closer ones are available.

I don't pick based on country of origin, I pick based on privacy and other features. Unfortunately, that seems to knock out most US based services, which is sad because I'm American.

[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

It's almost like Trump when to a seminar on the incredible healing power of tariffs, and believed every word he heard.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

I am so sick of all this shit. It’s only been like a month.

[–] plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 24 minutes ago

Thanks Mr Trump - this really helps us sell our non-US technology to the Europeans. Keep on making stuff great again 🤘

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 20 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

He's like that over confident political blowhard on the internet who picked up on one term used in policy at some point and tried to wedge it in as the appropriate answer to everything.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 hour ago

Sort of except the fact that he wants to be a dictator. Tariffs require no approval from Congress and it's the only peaceful offensive weapon he has at his disposal.

He knows better (at least let's hope he does) than to send troops anywhere for 90 days.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 70 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I think the world would be a better place if we collectively perma-banned all American digital services (while helping NGOs/open source projects relocate their infrastructure and legal organisations out of the US).

There would be a lot more competition, a wider variety of product offerings, more regional customisation, a bigger focus on long tail services.

It would be messy at first, but that's the nature of a transition from an oligarch model to a competitive model.

While what I am saying may sound like a pipe dream or pettyness, but from my perspective everything starts from a small step.

And if you don't live in the US (but are unfortunately impacted by their internal politics), you do have to take a more sober attitude towards their claimed commitment to democracy, free markets and rule of law.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yes, in the new "might is right" world Trump is pushing for, it's better to start pushing back or get pushed over. In his "make a deal" world view, better to say to ban everything outright in two weeks. In his typical fashion, some compromises might appears the next day. Losing a few hundred million customers and large amounts of influence will sting him and his supporters.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 hour ago

I would argue the goal should be actually permanently getting rid of American technology services as opposed to getting a deal.

By this point American business leaders (not only in tech) have decisively proven that they are not any better than say russian oligarchs; a group of corrupt criminals who will happily support authoritarianism as long as they get to keep their businesses interests.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 hour ago

Hahahahahahahahaha.

No wait, sorry.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[–] SavageCoconut@lemmy.world 25 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Lol, Trump is a clown. If netflix or other big tech is charging me for using their service in my country, and they have legal presence and activity in my country, they should be charged taxes in my country because they are generating econimic activity.

[–] airbreather@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

From the article:

Trump’s opposition to DSTs is not new: the Biden administration felt they disproportionately targeted US businesses and threatened 25 percent tariffs if they were not removed.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 39 minutes ago

"disproportionately targeted US businesses"

You want to have a monopoly, well guess what...

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 50 minutes ago

And I kind of agree. My understanding is that DSTs are taxes on gross revenues, not profits, and are therefore problematic. It should be net of expenses and apply only to activity in that region.

[–] Embargo@lemm.ee 93 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I'm in Australia and I would like to say something about that. Come at us you stupid fascist cunt.

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 5 points 15 minutes ago

American here.

They're like any other bully.

Break their nose.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 44 points 4 hours ago

As an American, I support this statement.

[–] kayazere@feddit.nl 70 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Strange, Big Tech has no inherit right to operate in foreign markets. If they want to be in those markets, they need to pay their fair share. I would be glad to see them pull out of those markets, but that won’t easily happen.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

Think of it on the flipside. If I make a website, I don't control who accesses it, and if I run ads or something, figuring out where that revenue is coming from is quite difficult. It can be done, but if I have to pay taxes to a hundred different countries, that's quite the burden.

I don't know how DSTs work in practice, but ideally we'd just discourage ads in general. Paying taxes on actual transactions (sub fees and whatnot) is easy, and ads suck.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 6 points 39 minutes ago

figuring out where that revenue is coming from is quite difficult.

Since all countries have long traditions in requiring that from a business, it doesn't matter if it's difficult or not.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Trump can tariff his asshole while he goes and fucks himself!

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 42 points 4 hours ago

"failed foreign economies"

Lol. Lmao, even.

Absolute clown.

[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 9 points 3 hours ago

He didn’t say anything about regulating them.

Tax revenue is small fry compared to the harm they can (and do?) cause.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 17 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't get Taxes doesn't he

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 16 points 3 hours ago

Why would he? He doesn’t pay them.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 25 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Wonder what the correct answer is... should everybody in the world put even higher taxes on big tech now, or better taxes + tariffs?

[–] marv99@feddit.org 5 points 4 hours ago
[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 22 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Who knew that Trump was so into Hawaiian solidarity. Gonna make the whole nation into an expensive island.

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

And this is how trump will stop immigration. Take away everything that makes people want to immigrate here like good jobs, a good economy, high standards of living... etc.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

lol what is this pic in the preview?