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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 10 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Except that it's not the wild mustard plant. It's the wild cabbage plant. Wild mustard is totally different genusv and species.

wild cabbage

wild mustard

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 41 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] _hovi_@lemmy.world 1 points 40 minutes ago

Always a relevant xkcd, isn't there

[–] f5xs_bhw0a@beehaw.org 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

scientific name

uppercase species

not even underlined or italicized

[–] fartknocker@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Damn, and I thought the bots on Reddit strangled out all the pedants. Guess this is where they went.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is news to me, but I was always kind of onto cauliflower just being albino broccoli, so not too surprised there.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 14 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

We eat like 2 plants. One is brassica mentioned above.

The other one is nightshade. In the nightshade family we find tomatos, aubergine, tobacco, peppers, physalis, potatoes and of course the extremely toxic bella-donna (deadly nightshade)

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Just a small correction: you missed an "a" in bella-donna (bella donna means "beautiful woman" in Italian)

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 points 1 hour ago

I very much did!

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't sound like a complete diet

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 points 1 hour ago

"like" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there

[–] match@pawb.social 12 points 7 hours ago

ancient and medieval europeans went through some shit

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 101 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 15 points 8 hours ago

🔫🌼 Always has been.

[–] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 79 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

How? Like... literally how?

I grow kale and it looks nothing like the plant in the OP. It looks like a regular bunch of kale.

Or is this like "all 6 vegetables come from one main vegetable", kind of like how all citrus fruits comes from citron.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 hours ago

Just like dog breeds look very distinct, but cranked up to eleven with horrible deformities. Imagine if we continued to breed chihuahuas to have bigger heads and smaller bodies until they are 90% head. Or breed a breed of hound to be smaller with increasingly bigger ears until it's 90% ears. They would still be dogs of the same species because they can procreate together.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago

Artificial selection!

If you think that’s amazing - look up what bananas looked like before human cultivation. Basically any fruit or vegetable you eat is the product of centuries of humans carefully selecting what seeds to save and plant.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

kind of like how all citrus fruits comes from citron.

This is what happened

[–] reattach@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

No, it's cooler than that! All these vegetables are cultivars of the same species (Brassica oleracea). Citrus trees are different species with common origins.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_oleracea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Its exactly like that.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 35 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Wait, but I put mustard on my broccoli...

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago
[–] grue@lemmy.world 31 points 9 hours ago

Yo dawg, I heard you like mustard...

[–] don@lemm.ee 44 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And every one fucking delicious

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 35 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

People have some hate boner against Brussels sprouts, but damn - if you know how to prepare them, they're delicious.

[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I actually prefer to eat them raw. A cup a day before sleeping. They act as sleeping pills for me

You get used to the taste and learn to enjoy it, same as with beer except they are good for you and increase hair density. It’s a real life equivalent of ent water

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Look, anything pan fried with butter, salt, black pepper, bacon and a little white wine is going to taste great...

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I just bake them with a little oilve oil, salt and rosemary. That's all it takes. If I have the time I boil them for 5 minutes before cutting them in half and baking them.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Sliced in half and deep fried—in case anyone was wondering.

[–] duramu@beehaw.org 2 points 6 hours ago

Shallow fry works just fine... no need to smother them

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 30 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 16 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Selective breeding does play a role but also how you prepare them. Just like other brassicae if you cook them for too long they start smelling bad, so you want to use high heat and relatively short cooking times.

For example. My go-to approach is to cut them into halves and pan-fry in lard. High fire. People claim it's delicious.

I mean, things fried in lard do usually come out delicious.

[–] Mozes@lemmy.zip 10 points 10 hours ago

Right, when I was growing up, always steamed or boiled - absolute trash. Just throw them on a pan under the broiler with some oil and salt/pepper chefs kiss

[–] Thelie@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I've had this discussion before, had the "proper way" of preparing them explained to me and made them according to these instructions. Turns out, I just don't like the taste. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 9 hours ago

Individual tastes are a thing, too. At least someone out there is bound to dislike even the most beloved dishes; the thing, for me, is how many people claim to hate Brussels sprouts, even if they deserve some leafy and greasy love.

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Does this mean I can put mustard on things instead of eating all these vegetables?

[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 6 hours ago

See, I like vegetables!

[–] tetrachromacy@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

mustard on the beat, yo

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Even the etymological family is a mess. They all backtrack to Latin caulis stalk, stem, cabbage stem; but even in closely related language varieties they might mean different plant varieties, like

  • Galician, general - col wild kale/cabbage/whatever, collards
  • Galician, south - couva~couve kale
  • Portuguese - couve kale
  • Spanish - col cabbage

...and of course people had to reborrow the word from Latin to refer to stems in general, to make the thing even messier. (e.g. PT "caule" stem)

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's wild how many times that root has been reborrowed for different vegetable names

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, it’s wild how many times that root has been reborrowed for different vegetable names

The root is the same, but the stems and leaves are all different!

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Weird how mustard (the condiment) tastes so good yet the cultivars of this particular species all taste horrible to me.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

lol and I think they all taste bad.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

Y'all are wildin'. These are all my favorite vegetables.

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