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[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 hour ago

I’m starting to think European leaders are relived Trump is putting an end to the war as it hit European economies hard, especially in terms of access to cheap energy. They are happy to let Trump take the blame and maintain a facade of moral superiority.

Or maybe I’m completely wrong and the European leaders really believe Russia is an existential threat to Europe, in which case they will now dramatically ramp up support and actually join Ukraine to fight the war against Russia?

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I accept that the dirty rock I was thinking about voting for would have made a bad deal too by asking for nothing. I admit it. But every once in the entire history of a people, there comes someone who is more idiotic than a dumb rock could ever wish it could have. That's us right there. Best country in the world.... Worst asshole president a country could ever have. We're at 3 years and 10 months to go.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 10 hours ago

He is simply doing whatever will make him the most money, same as always. Musk, Zuckerberg etc who are in boot-step with Trump are doing the same. Capitalism moment.

[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's not necessarily terrible deal making, we might not be privy to what Putin has offered to trump personally in return. Maybe a dacha here, or a casino in Crimea?

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Nah, what he promised him is exactly what we see: $500B in rare earths, every year. Trump's always been a terrible dealer, and this is no exception: he doesn't do back-and-forth, he just tosses his entire hand on the table and says "here's what I want", then bullies you into accepting. If you don't, he'll either harass you, or back out saying YOU sabotaged the deal because you didn't give him what he wanted immediately.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 35 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's not senseless and it's not capitulation, it's collaboration and it makes perfect sense to him, since he is doing it intentionally. Krasnov is a traitor to the USA and the entire Western world.

[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago

I'm assuming you mean this Krasnov.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 28 points 11 hours ago

It's a betrayal of Ukraine, Europe, NATO, the western world and America.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The United States is a second world country.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

How dare you! We are third world at best! And looking at creating fourth and fifth as well.

[–] krebssteven@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago

He is a traitor by definition.