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Wondering which forks Lemmings are using. With LibreWolf I get a lot of captchas. Mercury last release, v.129.0.2 , is from 2024?

Or would just using a hardening file like Betterfox be the best option? I am on Ubuntu....

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Vanilla Firefox. I trust Mozilla more than I trust the devopers of any fork.

[–] guava_tropic@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah same. I like Floorp, but regular Firefox is where it's at.

[–] Crampi@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't. They're really pushing for AI right now. We need a good fork.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That does not affect my opinion of Mozilla one bit. If anything, I applaud them for integrating AI into the browser. Saves me the trouble of having to type in a URL and login to a website to access an AI; I can just hit Ctrl+Alt+X now.

[–] Crampi@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you have a keyboard shortcut to get water after it's all depleted because AI ?

[–] voracread@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Zen Browser is rather decent.

[–] camilobotero@feddit.dk 7 points 1 week ago

I was coming to comment about Zen Browser. It is Firefox with better UI.

[–] Shalaska@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Agreed, I started using it a few months back and it quickly replaced the base Firefox for me.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm using plain old Firefox, mostly because I don't know enough which forks are available as well as their tldr's.

Sidenote: Please tell me there's a (good) project named Firefork.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

Same, mainly because nightly is a vanilla-firefox-only thing apparently

[–] HotCoffee@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Same here on vanilla firefox. When you hear Chrome so many forks like brave, opera and ungoogled come to mind.

Brave out of the box is one of the best in privacy. But at the end of the day it's still chromium :p

Besides LibreWolf not much talk of others. But Floorp and Zen are looking nice

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I've switched from librewolf to mullvad browser, it is tor browser minus the tor network.

In other words it makes all its users have the same fingerprint so that they can blend together. This is much more effective at detetring tracking than simply hiding or randomizing details like librewolf does.

In this thread the arkenfox Dev goes as far to say "PS: long term I am hoping we can retire arkenfox (I can't speak for LW) and just use MB - but they're just a little too divergent for now"

https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/issues/1

Other options (besides tor browser) are librewolf or Arkenfox, no other firefox forks are reputable from a security/privacy perspective

[–] HotCoffee@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How are the captchas on MB? It's peak in privacy terms. Have never daily drived it enough to see how it impacts web usability.

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago

That mostly depends on your IP reputation, don't think the browser itself is going to affect it much

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Zen has been pretty nice, otherwise just Firefox.

[–] clubb@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This. For 99% of people, firefox is fine. At least zen offers a new interface.

Yeah, the forks with privacy tweaks often are too much hassle to use with sites not working right or getting a lot of captchas. Firefox already has cookie isolation and stuff like that which is good enough for me.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Vanilla FF here. LibreWolf was great but too many websites broke under it for some reason and didn't with vanilla FF even with all the privacy settings turned to 11.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Firefox forks are nothing but Firefox with a user.js file added to it. Just use Vanilla Firefox with a user.js.

[–] JRaccoon@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago

I use the vanilla FF but with this theme applied:
https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Firefox with containers, uBlock Origin, and that extension from the EFF, privacy something. Forks would need to be from someone very trustworthy to gain the same trust Mozilla has earned from me over many years.

[–] stm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what are containers in firefox ?

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Mozilla’s Multi-Account Containers extension.

It lets you define several cookie+local storage spaces, each isolated from the rest, and from private browsing. This way you can open random sites in the Default container, work sites in the “Evil Corp.” container, Furry fanfic sites in the “Guilty pleasures” container, etc.

With a container-aware cookie manager extension, you can even clear a whole container without affecting the rest.

I'm no security expert, but I feel like forks are gonna have delays in updates, so for security, you should always get as close to the source as possible.

Firefox is open source and shouldn't be tracking you anyways.

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I use Floorp (mostly because vertical tabs and the customization) with Add Water Flatpak that makes it fit in with the rest of my GTK apps.

[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think floorp looks interesting, but I haven't moved to it yet.

All I want is something that does a sidebar as well as Vivaldi. Why is a sidebar so difficult?

[–] HotCoffee@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think Zen browser is de Vivaldi of Firefox forks. Looks pretty clean too.

Floorp also looks promising. I'll have to try both

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I use Firefox which is a Floorp fork... noticeble faster than vanilla FF

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm using Firefox, I heard it was the biggest fork of Firefox.

[–] HotCoffee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Damn son, Firefoxception

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

Zen browser

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Firedragon which is a fork of Floorp... love it

[–] HotCoffee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is that the Garuda fork? My fav arch distro, very user friendly even more so than endeavour

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Try using Chameleon extension to spoof the headers to look like vanilla FF on Windows.

[–] Crampi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I use Floorp for the sleeping tabs

[–] geography082@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

I use libre wolf . It's just perfect point to not be a border . For people complaining about it breaking stuff or saying is just a user.js , read the documentation