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Well, After hundreds of GB of torrents downloaded, I slipped up. I've been changing around linux distros recently and i believe i configured my VPN wrong or forgot to turn it back on after doing something. Well, I finally got hit with a copyright warning. Just your typical "we had to send this" type of warning but none-the-less, I slipped up.

Sharing this because the day before it happened, I read a post about not only having your killswitch on but also binding your client to you vpn interface for situations like this. Needless to say I didn't take that precaution. For those who are on linux, I found a great post about how to set this up on reddit and wanted to remind people to "double wrap" because why not be safe lol.

The steps were more or less as follows (for QBitTorrent at least):

  1. Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced Settings

  2. Under "Network Interface", select your vpn interface. To test, check what shows with your vpn on, and then turn it off and re-navigate to this part to see what dissapeared. Thats likely your vpn interface if the name wasn't clear. (Do not be seeding/downloading torrents while doing this in case).

  3. To test, download a non-copyright torrent like the Ubuntu ISO torrent. In the middle of download, disconnect or close your vpn connection. This should stop the download.

Not sure if reddit links are cool here but here is the guide source if anyones interested. Binding VPN to Torrent Client

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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't use a VPN, and haven't got a letter from my ISP in all the years I've been pirating.

[–] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This!

I haven't had one since an idiot roommate decided they wanted to fuck around. I fixed the problem (no more roommate).

Been 20 years now.

VPN seems a way to screw up decent performance when all you need is to stay away from public trackers.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

What happened to your roommate? That sounds kinda scary... :o

[–] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

It was one of a few stupid things and I wound up just telling him to leave.

Kinda wish it was more dramatic and/or gory, but I usually am just too tired to turn to violence.

Besides, I'd never admit to owning that chipper shredder anyway.

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[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Were you using a public or private tracker?

[–] JackAttack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Public I assume, I'm pretty new to torrenting and haven't really dove into private trackers yet. Any resources your recommend on reading up on that?

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It can be tough to get an invite to a private tracker, but that's all I've been using in my 20 years of torrenting and I've never received an ISP letter. I don't use a VPN. Just keep an eye out for open sign-ups. Once you're in, it's essential to keep a good ratio.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tormenting? That sounds a bit extreme

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Lmao Oops, fixed

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

~~/r/opentrackers~~ /r/opensignups to find openings and read the rules of wherever you're joining. Typically, they just want you to seed for X amount of time within Y days. I've also been temporarily banned once for not having any activity several days after joining on one of the more popular sites.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago

That sub was banned. There is r/OpenSignups though. You can monitor the rss feed if you don't want to go on reddit.

[–] JackAttack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll take a look at this. Is there any downsides to private trackers?

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mainly just that you need to maintain a fairly high seed ratio to keep access. A lot of trackers will limit how many concurrent torrents you can have, based on your seed ratio. And depending on the tracker and the media that you want to download, you sometimes run into situations where just nobody else wants what you're seeding, or where the torrent has so many seeds that you barely get to contribute.

Last time I was on a private tracker, I was one of only like 3 other users who were downloading episodes of Doctor Who. I could seed those for months, and never go above 1.0 because there just wasn't interest in that.

I'm not sure if this is considered a good practice or not, but what I ended up doing was occasionally torrenting something that was really popular, even if I had no interest in it, just so that I could seed something. It definitely helped to keep my ratio up, and as far as I can tell it's overall a net benefit to the network as a whole, so I don't think tracker admins would have issue with it. But it just felt weird, to me.

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[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 14 points 1 week ago

Your link is broken

Also, visit here for a tool that lets you test and ensure your torrent client isn't leaking

[–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Copyright warnings are fairly common in developed nations like much of western Europe and say, US right? Do they result in prosecutions as well( would it be worth it for an ISP to take an individual user to court and spend time and money on it?)

Copyright warnings are almost unknown in my country or much of the underdeveloped / developing world.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

No prosecutions in many many years.

But, with the new oligarchy dictatorship in progress... I would not be surprised to see Sony get some bills passed to have ISPs cut you off permanently.

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Mostly us stuff, never heard of one in Europe

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I got one a few years ago (Europe), but you just throw them out, they're meaningless threats without action behind and to my knowledge no one has been convicted based on one ever in my country. But if you torrent copyrighted material without a VPN here, you'll definitely be getting them.

[–] Jomn@jlai.lu 3 points 1 week ago

France put in a place the Hadopi in 2010 (now part of the Arcom) specifically to target people torrenting copyrighted stuff.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 week ago

I don't believe the ISP would have legal standing to take you to court, as they don't hold the copyright.

They're in the middle, being told hy copyright holders that someone using their service is violating copyright, and they must "do something".

Eventually they may shut off your service, but I haven't heard of it happening since the early 2000's.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In my experience in Canada, no, not at all. I've only had two but the impression I got was the ISP is legally obligated to pass the notice along and nothing more. The companies complaining are likely American and the ISP want to keep me as a regular paying customer.

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[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

I have hundreds of those. I'm in Canada though so I don't care.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

What are you downloading? Movies, games, etc

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