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Not that many people use email much anymore, but as you often need an email address to sign up for other shit... anyway, I need a better option than gmail, I'm sure you can appreciate why. Email is so old school at this point that most of the time I don't even think about it anymore.

Anyway, I need some email options that aren't gmail or otherwise attached to a billionaire. I'm not really interested in non-email methods of communication, I'm specifically asking about email.

Thanks in advance.

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[–] Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

I have two. One account is through Protonmail and my main email account is through Private Email. Both are paid accounts, though Proton does have a free tier if money is tight.

[–] TheFermentalist@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Rise up has changed their invite policy to one every 24 hours. I am sending out invites in order of request, but have had (to date) 21 DM’s. I have to draw a line and will send one per day until I am cut off.

Thanks

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago (26 children)

Most if not all non-paid options will have privacy concerns similar to gmail, so you’ll have to pay. I pay for Proton, and though I’m not thrilled about some of the political bullshit their CEO has been up to recently, I think I’ll stay with them for now since they’re still good for privacy, and their other services are solid. They’re also very upfront about what they charge and why, and I think they still plan to transition to a non-profit.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago

There's also Tuta if you're looking for an alternative.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not that many people use email much anymore

Where do you live, because I want to go there immediately.

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (7 children)

IDK, what else do they use? Email has to be the least bad option. At least with email you can choose your provider (or be your own).

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

Any of the dozens of federated chat services.

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[–] JuanPosadas@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The ProtonMail CEO recently said that Trump "fights for the little guy". I know that's not a substantial critique of their privacy policy or encryption standards, but I wouldn't trust a company that says something so baseless, divisive, and in support of a fascist oligarch.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly, I know this is entirely subjective, but I never liked the vibes from proton especially in the last year. I’m going to use my animal instincts and just avoid them.

That said, I really need new email service so looking at options

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And frankly, even if he's not a facist himself, the CEO saying something that fucking stupid makes me think that you shouldn't trust him to run the slurpee machine at a 7-11, let alone something sensitive like your email.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Who's not using email? I'm green with envy, but I think it's a ludicrous premise to think not many people are using email.

I also wondered what kind of rock OP lives under. I use email every day, multiple times per day. I probably send more emails than texts.

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[–] snake@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 week ago

i currently use tuta. it has a free tier, offers encryption, is open source, gdpr-compliant, and is 100% powered by green energy.

i have used mailbox in the past, which is paid (cheapest tier is ~€12/yr). i can recommend it as well.

[–] thistledown@rblind.com 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I use Tuta mail. It is entirely open source. There are both paid and free tiers. I started on a paid tier, then downgraded to free. I like the option of a usable free tier when money is tight. I use addy.io for aliases.

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[–] m105@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I use proton and for registering on different sites I usually use addy.io. Also, I recently found a new mail service that looks nice and might give it a try soon, disroot.org

[–] lindicks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

ProtonPass will also generate aliases and forward the mail to your email account. But, as someone else mentioned, the CEO's politics seem sus.

[–] quirzle@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I use Fastmail with my own domain. Not free, but worth it given how much I rely on my email/calendar. There's a 30-day free trial before committing though, so you can kick the tires before deciding.

[–] t_378@lemmy.one 11 points 1 week ago

I second this. Fastmail has been a joy to use. Since the users are paying, the company has (less) incentives to enshittify. JMAP? Count me in!

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I'm currently moving (for the last year) from Gmail to mailbox.org.

They have a free level, but I wanted aliases, so I pay $30/year. Worth every penny.

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[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Disroot - A lot of people in the know about privacy seem to really like it.

Really though email is a bullshit communication medium and unless you're insisting on using GPG for every message and make sure your or other people's keys never got compromised I wouldn't rely on it.

Really hoping Dark Mail actually becomes a thing at some point. If it was that with locally stored encrypted email then email might actually be worth bothering with.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Tutanota or disroot.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

proton.

Proton unlimited comes with unlimited everything on proton pass, including disposable email addresses

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Proton have shown recently they are very much pro-cop and pro-trump and so aren't that private or worthwhile any more.

[–] wheres_frank@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago

I've been a Proton customer for over 4 years and I'm leaving because of this. Don't use Proton.

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[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

unlimited everything is not really true: storage for example

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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 1 week ago

if you wanna forget privacy and subscribe to a proprietary startup instead, use hey mail because it just sorts well. otherwise just use proton like everyone else said

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

While I'm using Proton rn, I'm planning to migrate to Posteo with Addy.io for aliases. However they all cost money. If you mean free email that's not tie to a billionaire, I can't think one off my head. You can achieve "free" by hosting your own email server as it sounds you're intended for receiving only, but the electricity still cost some, plus you are doning free labor to make sure it is happy.

[–] thetaT@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

tutanota is pretty good

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

I'm currently using Migadu. It's $20/year for their cheapest plan. They give you a lot of control over the email service, so it might not be the best if you're a noob. In fact, they require you bring a domain name. But, they let you create unlimited users, aliases, have fancy routing, etc.

https://purelymail.com/ looks interesting too. And is cheaper at $10/year.

If you do decide to get a custom domain, just some tips:

  • get something that ends in .net or even better .com because shitty companies with shitty IT departments will block other TLDs (I've had this happen with FedEx and my local garbage company). There is no spam folder for them, the email just explodes.
  • probably don't pick a domain with one of your names it in for better anonymity, unless I guess you have a popular last name? john@smith.com looks cool, but consider if you want random sites like lemmy to have that data.
  • don't pick a homophone or weird word because at some point you'll have to speak your email to another human and it's really awkward to tell your bank that your email is john@piggy.park or john@maill.com or was it john@male.com?

Also, the web interfaces of some of these other email services might not be as good as Gmail's UI. It helps to use an email client instead. Thunderbird is fine or you could use something simpler like claws-mail or even something like mutt.

[–] TheFermentalist@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Riseup.net Private, free, encrypted

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 12 points 1 week ago

Invite-only and no clear way to get said invites

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