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[–] ladnopivo@lemm.ee 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There’s a fediverse alternative made by same people who have made pixelfed called Loops Link

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Loops is even less federated that Blue Sky, meaning not at all. (It's on the roadmap, though.)

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 35 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

wtf ever happened to vine?

edit TIL tldr: bought by twitter and killed. founders tried to build a new one in 2020 and died in 2023.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 8 points 7 hours ago

Twitter bought it

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 22 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Video will not work for AT whatsoever. Text and images, fine, but I'm pretty sure leveraging edge delivery of video is just not going to work out well for users. I think they'll need a centralized host for that portion, or some fancy ways to offload bandwidth otherwise to prevent constant hammering of popular videos.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Could implement torrents, which I believe is how Peertube handles it.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You apparently do not internet. Anything with a wait time is not an app platform people will use.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

109ms response time was the goal circa 2009. Now, with the advent of Kubernetes, response time as are in seconds. Proxies on top of proxies cost request time. Users will abandon.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

So why does it for for AP with Loops? What’s the fundamental difference between, isn’t the Fediverse the more decentralised system?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 5 hours ago

Because Activity Pub is not a data salad. A video lives in a specific place.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

I don’t think it has been proven that Loops is viable at scale yet.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Can you reform this question?

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Loops uses ActivityPub and feeds video in a TikTok like manner.

What's the difference that makes it not achievable for AT but okay for AP?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Because one costs money and another doesn't. Simple fact.

CDN distribution of content is 2X the cost of static hosted files. This isn't a pendant saying "I CAN DO THIS" scenario, it's "can it be monetized", and in the case of of a video service on AT, absolutely not. Who do you think is paying for the hosting costs of a popular video in this scenario?

Cuban doesn't know WTF he's talking about about at all, but if he wants to launch competition and pay for that, there is certainly an expectation that a return will be built. Ads all over the place.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

some fancy ways to offload bandwidth otherwise to prevent constant hammering of popular videos

it's called a CDN

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

CDN won't scale to millions of users all uploading videos on a decentralized system. Article is specifically talking about AT Protocol which doesn't account for video. Making a global CDN distribution of videos from decentralized sources is whole other ball of wax.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

What the hell is going on with his pinky finger?