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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


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Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from !vegan@lemmy.world for being fake vegans.

From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.

PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don't want to insult anyone here being a 'bastard'. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.

PPS: Some instances or clients seem to compress the screenshots in a way they're unreadable. Find the full resolution here: https://imgur.com/a/8XdexTm

Linking the affected users and mods: @Cypher@lemmy.world @gaael@lemmy.world @gredo@lemmy.world @iiGxC@slrpnk.net @veganpizza69@lemmy.world @veganpizza69@lemmy.vg @jerkface@lemmy.ca @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world @Sunshine@lemmy.ca @Aqua@lemmy.vg

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[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I (a vegan) got banned from there for finding the love of cows cloying. I said we shouldn't have to pretend cows are cute to convince others not to kill and eat them.

It really isn't a place for even back and forth amongst friends, "no conversation - only agreement"

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

cloying

adjective

excessively sweet, rich, or sentimental, especially to a disgusting or sickening degree

Neat, new word.

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

This is super weird to me. Back on the Asian ass porn site known as Reddit I could just go into vegan subs and have casual conversations about recipes and cooking techniques. It didn’t matter that I eat meat.

After the API kerfuffle we all celebrated how friendly the internet can be and now you get preemptively banned because you COULD be a bad actor in disguise.

To a point I understand the frustration vegans have to live with. The constant childish trolling can be exhausting, but this is pretty much the worst way to handle this.

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[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Lol, I got my vegan card revoked (declared "a carnist") and handed my first fedi ban by the "Real Vegans™" too, for daring to call out their bullshit and ableist militant gatekeeping.

Good luck to them and the toxic cesspit they're so adamant on maintaining, the last thing anyone should be seeking is these people's approval, especially not on being a "good" or "real" vegan, since they make it crystal clear that their top priority is and always will be their own egos. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah the vegan communities are so toxic that it has turned me off of pursuing an interest into their lifestyle. I want to try out a Buddhist approach to veganism and ignore whatever the hell they're trying to achieve.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

I’m so sorry! I’ve had that happen to me as well. It’s not only toxic but just makes me feel bad

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean what level of vegan are you? Do you eat anything that casts a shadow?

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[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is why plantbased was made recently

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Militant vegans always seemed cult-like to me, and nothing reinforced that idea more than seeing posts from the vegan group on here.

Didn't take long for me to block that community.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Vegans biting each other 😉

[–] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Heh, getting warmed up for their inevitable turn to cannibalism, to rid the earth of evil humans.

[–] gaael@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Lol found out here that I had been banned from the community. Ty for sharing the information :)

Regarding the matter, I understand their reaction.
I've been interacting with some vegan circles IRL and some are more "hardcore" (not in a negative way) than others. When you consider animal exploitation as mass slavery, mass torture and mass murder, it becomes increasingly difficult to tolerate even light deviations from the all-vegan path.

This being said, I would have preferred they had a better wording for the temp ban reason than "fake vegan" by which I feel insulted and hurt.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

Looks like the vegan admin has an aggression problem. Maybe he or she should at least occasionally eat some meat to calm the cravings.

Edit: /s, for the idiots who did not get it. Wow, are some people stuck up. Do they have the same problems that the admin had?

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

Generally very radical vegans also have a right to their own community, however I also think there should be spaces for less radical veganism as well. It seems that currently there's none of those available, or maybe the general hostility of social media against vegans makes any of their more tolerant spaces eventually close ranks to protect their sanity. Unfortunately vegan spaces are constantly brigaded by trolls so it's understandable they have a very short fuse, and a lot of people get caught in the cross-fire.

I think the only solution here would be for a new vegan community with a focus on debate with non-vegans. However it will be tricky to find the right moderators for it who either won't be non-vegans themselves and therefore support a flood of concern-trolls and bad faith arguments, or be vegans that won't get immediately burnt out.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Purity gatekeeping, and purity competitions, are the bane of any movement. Sorry that happened to you. FWIW I thought your comments were reasonable

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The vegan Community is actually quite shit. They don't hesitate to delete your comment just because you aren't a vegan, even if you agree with them in certain points.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Love the user name. Ruminant revolution!

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Its a fact. Also cows are much cooler than horses, because unlike them they are actually useful. Also I cows are very chill so you can cuddle with them a lot.

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