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[–] socsa@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Literally the only place I have ever experienced transphobia on Lemmy was from a hexbear, who called me a chaser for saying that my ex was a trans woman.

[–] rami@ani.social 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I might be missing something. they may be making assumptions about you but how is calling someone a chaser transphobic?

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Calling someone a chaser solely on the grounds that they claim to have dated a trans woman could imply "no cis male could be interested in a trans woman outside of pure fetish bait", which is awfully reductive. It casts the trans woman as an object in the relationship rather than an equal partner.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 3 points 23 hours ago

so you're telling me that you used to free dive in the the deep part of the Mediterranean? that's thalassophobic /s

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

"You people," huh?

I hate how they're incapable of actually thinking, so they latch onto specific phrases so they can pretend you're a racist so they don't have to engage with what you're actually saying

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Never, under any circumstances, use the phrase "you people" unless you're in the mood for everyone in the universe to act like you just lost the argument.

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Solid advice. It can be completely benign, but people will still pounce on it for an "easy win".

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

You people make some good points.

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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Then what do you people want me to say?

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[–] sheepy@lemm.ee 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (23 children)

Imagine not being able to tell the difference between "I don't believe half of their users are trans" and "I don't believe in their users being trans".

Demographics isn't transphobic. Using trans people as a shield from criticism is.

EDIT: I looked over the October survey. The graphs aren't the cleanest but the data is there: 15% of all asked identified as trans, with another 9% as trans non-binary. A sample size of 600 to the 2300 monthly users is also really good, so the data ought to be very representative.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Meanwhile, Lemmy Devs are saying the "transgender topic" is promoted by "the bourgeoisie", and how "biological men" shouldn't be competing in "women's sports"

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/25213024

(also, who the fuck says "biological men" in the transgender context, its called transgender women)

[–] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

(also, who the fuck says "biological men" in the transgender context, its called transgender women)

Conservatives and other right wing that's who. That's why you hear tankie leadership saying it.

Tankies are anti-lgbtq at their core. Anything to simp for totalitarians.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

It seems unlikely that half of their users would be transgender, given that transgender people make up roughly .5% of the overall population; gay people (gay men + lesbians) make up roughly 4.5-5% of the overall population the last time I looked at demographics. All of the LGBTQ+ people together make up about 6% of the total population in the US.

These numbers might have changed somewhat in the last year or two since I last check surveys, but it's not likely that it's changed enough to move the numbers sharply.

I know that there was some investigative reporting in my state a few months ago trying to figure out how many minors would be affected by a state-level ban on insurance covering gender-affirming care for minors, and the number was in in the very low double digits. The same kind of numbers of athletes would be affected by bans on 'biological males' competing in womens' sports.

I'm just saying that it just doesn't seem very likely that an instance with thousands of users would have that kind of demographics, esp. when you consider that Hexbear broadly has a monolithic political identity.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (26 children)

The fuck with this obsession of telling people whether they are or are not trans online?

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