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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Never, under any circumstances, use the phrase "you people" unless you're in the mood for everyone in the universe to act like you just lost the argument.

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Solid advice. It can be completely benign, but people will still pounce on it for an "easy win".

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You people make some good points.

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] CreatingMachines@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago

You people are excused. /s

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Rein those U's in when you're talkin to me. I ain't no princess.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

I mean you're not wrong in that people will often try to play the victim in that scenario, but there are plenty of intelligent people who can easily see such claims are merely a flimsy argumentative tactic. After all, we are discussing it right now, and its pretty easy to recognize when it happens.

Definitely still solid advice though, especially IRL. Online I feel like it's a bit more acceptable, because you don't even know the physical characteristics of the person you're arguing with, so it's much more difficult to twist you people into some kind of discriminatory or bigoted statement, given that the two debaters are anonymous.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Then what do you people want me to say?

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 21 hours ago

yall is good; especially when trying to be respectful on non-gendered phrasing

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I can come up with a couple of nonspecific alternatives, all of them would cause an even worse mayhem.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I hate that this is correct. Because that phrase only ever had a bad connotation for reasons that probably apply in next to none of the cases on Lemmy where someone would take that phrase as a failed purity test.

Probably any time I used that online I meant "most of the people replying in this particular thread". To me, it's super obvious what it means but I've gotten the kind of smug response you mean several times.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 5 points 1 day ago

The usage here is appropriate but you are absolutely correct. It is the perfect way to start losing an argument.

When reading all the Tankie bullshit it's actually very easy to get emotional so that's why I limit my interactions with them. I only come out when they are not offered a counter point outside of their 3 instances.