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Tipping in U.S. restaurants has dropped to 19.3%, the lowest in six years, driven by frustration over rising menu prices and increased prompts for tips in non-traditional settings.

Only 38% of consumers tipped 20% or more in 2024, down from 56% in 2021, reflecting tighter budgets.

Diners are cutting back on outings, spending less, and tipping less. Some restaurants are adding service fees, further reducing tips.

Worker advocacy groups are pushing to eliminate the tipped-wage system, while the restaurant industry warns these shifts hurt business and employees.

Key cities like D.C. and Chicago are phasing in higher minimum wages for tipped workers.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago

You flew too close to the sun, you insufferable, greedy pieces of shit. Pay your workers a livable wage yourself, we're done subsidizing your labor abuses.

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

The worst part is when you go to a place you need to pay before service is rendered.

If I go to the bagel shop and get a dozen I pay before I pick them out. TIP? Are you kidding me, what what, you have not served me yet.

A tip is to reward good service at a sit down place. I still think it shouldn't be and if we have it, it should be back to the 5-10% like most countries that have tipping.

But if you ask for a tip before you render service i get a little angry.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Tipping culture and systems need to die off. Sadly, because they often get paid more via tips than they would by increased hourly wages, tipped employees are often against such reforms.

And, to be fair, for most restaurants, it would be really hard for them to pay their wait staff appropriate wages in many cities where rent is extremely high and the cost of the food products they use to create their meals is rising as well. It’s not a simple matter of “the employer should pay their employees’ wages, not the customer.” The industry is built around tipping, and that’s not something that can be changed overnight.

Still, I firmly believe it needs to happen. And if that means increasing the price of restaurant meals, so be it. I suspect people eat out too much these days anyway and should learn to cook themselves. I used to eat out a lot until I did some calculations and realized I was spending way too much on it. Since learning to cook, I’ve saved a lot of money and now prefer my own cooking to a lot of restaurant fare out there (although not the really good stuff—I’m no professional chef).

[–] I3lackshirts94@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

I don’t really agree that restaurants couldn’t make it work. It’s just going to have to take all or nothing.

Getting away from tipped wages is the real problem. Give all restaurant workers fair livable wages, they won’t be on tighter budgets on would spend more going out.

Workers can’t live paycheck to paycheck just for the profits to sit in some CEO or owners back account. The economy is heathy with an exchange of money. More money in the pockets of the people the more they will spend.

Of course it won’t work if one restaurant (or any single company) does it differently when everyone is still on tight budgets. You won’t get the business from your own employees but need others to have the means to come to you too.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

If you can’t make your business work without paying people below the minimum wage than you have a bad business.

In my city restaurants have just gotten more expensive. It’s also led to better conditions for staff and these places are more desirable to work at. It works. I don’t go out as much because I pay often $200-$300 instead of $80-$150 like I used to but so be it. Going out to eat is a luxury, we budget accordingly.

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[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I swear when I was a kid in the 90s 5-10% was standard.

Anyone else remember this?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yup and tips were only for a short list of things like waiters or cabbies.

[–] nul9o9@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

"Let me tip the taco time drive through"

  • Statement from the deranged.
[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Im 40. It had always been 15% as long as I can remember, and my memory of it goes pretty far back. When I started learning percentages in math class my parents made me the tip calculator whenever we'd go out so that would have been 8 or 9 years old?

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Tipping was essentially an American invention to not pay black people. (Who were the majority of service industry workers in the late 1800s/1900s?)

Also keeps that servant/master power dynamic.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I've been tipping more, but that's mostly because I live in a relatively low-income area and I know people around here are cheap/frugal. I've also worked in food service before (though not deliveries) and I know just how awful it can be. I hope I can be the one delivery that allows the person to call it an early night and spend time with their family. Shit like that.

That being said, I don't know what kind of notes the drivers get when they see my order pop up, but I will say that 99% of the time, my service has been impeccable. They know.

HOWEVER, don't take this as approval for tipping culture. I hate it and would love to do away with it. Unfortunately, I understand that these people depend on my tips for a living wage and that sucks.

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[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Are you American? If so, yes.

It’s $1 per drink at a bar (in most major cities though this is not universal), 20% at sit down restaurants (even if it’s not super nice), it gets ambiguous outside of that.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I've been tipping 10% at restaurants for the last decade and don't tip anywhere else. Shrug

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

10% is insultingly low. Have you worked in the service industry?

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nope, but I've worked for minimum wage.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

Not the same thing.

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[–] FatTony@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago
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