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Saudi Arabia blocked blahaj.zone (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by fxomt@lemm.ee to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world

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A couple of days ago i noticed something off with blahaj.zone. I couldn't see images posted by users on blahaj, so i thought it was a problem on their side.

Well guess fucking what? After 3 days, it was STILL broken, so i opened it and...

Blocked. They fucking blocked blahaj.zone. Actually beyond parody🤦‍♂️ Why? What was the point? there's trans content literally everywhere on lemmy. what's next, block them all? So now if i want to see a post by a user on blahaj, i have to turn on my VPN (protonvpn.com is also blocked in saudi, jfc) just to see it. Fuck this place. 🙄

I swear a couple of days ago it worked. This is a mild annoyance (hence the community) but still.

It's so over guys, MBS said no more 196 😔

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Proton works in China if you set the protocol to "stealth" in the setting, maybe that works for Saudi as well?

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Proton works in China if you set the protocol to “stealth” in the setting

With or without alternative routing?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Without.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wait so the "great firewall" doesn't block Proton VPN IP addresses? That's interesting.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 6 points 5 days ago

They don't blacklist IP addresses generally, though some are certainly blocked. But normally they run deep packet inspections and block traffic that is identified as VPN traffic based on certain header data. That's what makes the firewall "great" in the first place; many other countries simply block a range of IP addresses, and all it takes is for the VPN provider to switch the IP in their data warehouse. That's trivial and takes seconds, and many providers rotate their IPs on a regular basis to prevent blocks in the first place.

Because of the deep packet inspection, OpenVPN and wireguard as protocols are entirely useless in China whatsoever, for example. Stealth mode AFAIK is using a modified wireguard protocol that obfuscates certain headers and thereby avoids detection (for now).

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It works without stealth here, too. It's a little slow, tho. granted, i am using the free version.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ah ok, I've got the paid version. If you happen to be or know a student, they offer a 50% discount through studentbeans.com, only $2.50 a month.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Good advice, thank you :)

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 165 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It sucks, but it's also one positive thing about the Fediverse - if Lemmy was a central platform, it would be completely gone for you now.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 89 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Yeah, thank god. I'm more baffled on why fucking saudi arabia would care about a tiny trans-ran instance on a niche software. must've been a slow day there, i guess.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 102 points 1 week ago (1 children)

youre kidding right. one of the most oppressive shitty, religion-based garbage of a country that subjugates 50% of its population and you wonder why its acting shitty?

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm more suprised at the fact that they blocked such a small website, but i guess they really leave nothing left behind. I gotta be more careful on lemmy if that's the case.

And i know KSA is shitty, i really do, but i can't do shit about it. I'm not suprised they'd block a trans instance, just such a small one.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

its what happens when horrible people have money to burn

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Only a small percentage of saudi arabia live luxuriously, guess who's most of them? (Hint: they're a royal family) meanwhile, i've seen homeless people, starved to the bone (literally), without a single piece of clothing, sitting in the sweltering heat.

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[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm a way that's a downside too, it's now easier for shit regimes to block content they disagree with, without blocking the larger services. Less people will be disrupted by it, so less people will care. See: blocking Facebook,YouTube or WhatsApp vs. blocking a single activist site.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Hey at least Lemmy is becoming popular enough for the authorities to block us.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

Can't have shit in Saudi, not even Lemmy 😤

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 week ago (15 children)

If I were in Saudi Arabia I'd be using a VPN anyways.

Also, if I were in Saudi Arabia, I'd be trying to leave Saudi Arabia

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Easier said than done. At least, for the second one.

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[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

geoblocked

"Geoblocking" would mean that it's blahaj who don't want saudis on their instance

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago

Damn 😔

yeah that was my bad, sorry

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Use Tor if you can, and people outside of these restrictive countries can help by running Snowflake in their regular browser.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago

Love tor, it's a lifesaver (literally :) ) and thank you for the tip!

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Is it weird this makes me proud to be a blahaj user?

Like when a transphobic government starts hating, you know you’re doing something right.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Lol I'd tread a bit carefully.

KSA likes to chase people and have them "disappeared" for their opinions.

I know a guy they picked up for 3 months and when he finally showed up, his poor mouth was zippered shut.

And he was an international too.

I'd look around for a solid VPN solution anyway. Useful to have in any country.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

So now if i want to see a post by a user on blahaj, i have to turn on my VPN just to see it. Fuck this place. 🙄

One of the first conversations I was on when I joined was one between Ada, the lemmy.blahaj.zone admin, and some guy in a Middle Eastern country. Apparently his country had blocked lemmy.blahaj.zone at the national network level.

The Threadiverse is federated, so one could view posts from lemmy.blahaj.zone elsewhere, but not images, which did not propagate.

I thought that at some point, lemmy servers had started also storing images posted on other lemmy servers, but upon checking, it looks like they have not. I did run into one -- no longer up -- that had, according to the description, had apparently been modified to do this, probably to afford its users more privacy and not expose their IP addresses other than to their home instance. In theory, if you could find one that did so, you could make that your home instance and just rely on propagation of images through the network.

EDIT: It sounds from this year-old post like a lemmy instance can at least be configured to cache remote images:

https://futurology.today/post/6440

I suppose it'd be possible to go look and find out exactly what the current situation is.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (9 children)

texas will probably block us next.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Well its Saudi Arabia after all. It isn't exactly known for being all that high on the freedom index. I'm sure you realize that though.

From a technical level there are ways to bypass censorship. The thing to keep in mind is that Saudi Arabia doesn't have any rights for citizens. The law can be enforced arbitrarily and you could just disappear one day. If you are looking for technical information on avoiding censorship I can try to help.

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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago (13 children)

My fuckers blocked catbox.moe, most western news sites and slowed down youtube traffic, but lemmy still flies under radar thankfully. I wish you still have your ways to choose what content you want to consume.

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