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[–] NotLuigi@hexbear.net 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah because you can say “let’s go Brandon” in church and God won’t know the difference because he’s stupid

Preaching that god is all-knowing and then trying to lie to him in the dumbest ways possible is an ancient Christian tradition.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

The chud persecution complex is a weird combination of paranoia and martyrdom.

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (7 children)

They think that just because you voted for a certain guy, it means you love him. Nope. I probably hate Joe Biden more than most Republicans do. Unlike them, I actually know some of his policies. Some of them are great. And some of them are wretched. But most of them are just business as usual bullshit when what we need is real change.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Real change starts with organizing the working class.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Many ways, but a good way to start is joining an org near you, like PSL or FRSO, or even the DSA with the intention of joining with Red Star Caucus (all US based orgs). Unionizing can be great as well, as long as you combine it with reading theory (I have an Introductory Marxist Reading List if you want somewhere to start).

Studying the history of worker organization and revolution helps teach us what we need to do, and can help guide us in analyzing how our conditions are similar and different to find a correct strategy.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (6 children)

You can't organize the working class with a "Marxist" reading list, maga was already told they don't like that word. Speak the ideology of unionization while avoiding the things that can be associated with Marxism, communism, socialism, while remembering they don't understand those things, they just have a trigger words they know to hate.

As an aside when speaking to maga, don't let the conversation ever be Dem vs GOP, always frame is as workers vs elites. In the former we are divided, in the later we have solidarity.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

Historically, such a strategy doesn't actually work. Sooner or later, you get accused of being a godless commie or a tankie anyways. You can either stand firm in your beliefs and attempt to sweep away the dirt of the Red Scare to accurately contextualize Socialism and AES states, or fail to support them at all, leading to issues like Trotskyism (poor understanding of theory and a lack of support for AES) or PatSocs (Nationalist Socialists in the Imperialist countries).

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What you're saying is exactly the discourse COINTELPRO promoted in US organizations in the 60s and 70s (when they weren't outright murdering the party members).

How'd that one work out?

It's easy to deflect workers off the path of real, lasting change when even the organizers only try to do sloganeering instead of education.

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[–] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You can start by height. If that doesn't work you can try favorite ice cream flavor.

And no, boot leather isn't actually an ice cream flavor. There seems to have been some confusion about that amongst us workers lately.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where in the world are you going with this?

[–] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You're right. Perhaps I need to touch grass. My "is this commenter worth actually expending energy" meter may be off.

And to be clear, there was no jab at marxists. There was a jab at the lack of working class solidarity and wealth cult that exists within my everyday context in the US. Which you aren't necessarily aware of.

Marxist and Anarchist end goals really aren't so different that it makes sense to foster any leftist infighting. We all ultimately want things to be better for everyone, especially the working class.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

Ah, gotcha! I've seen way too many people making jabs at Marxists these days so I got defensive. I apologize, I got ahead of myself. I agree entirely that at this stage it makes no sense whatsoever to engage in hostile relations between Anarchists and Marxists, the goal remains a more equitable society and liberation of the working class, and are more useful to each other than non-useful.

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[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We're about to get a shit load of real change. Business as usual would have been a good election outcome this time.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think what he meant was we need positive change. Burning our own country down is definitely change, but... well, I guess it's what the (fucking traitorous) voters wanted, so... buckle up.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

As a foreigner whos seen what the US does to other countries, the US burning down sounds pretty good, and being a traitor to the US something to be encouraged.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not good, still bad, just better than "holy shit why are we driving OFF of the cliff at full speed stop STOP! STOOOOOoooooop...."

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Trump is driving off the cliff at 100 mph, Biden was driving off it at 90. "We're technically better" -- when part of that argument includes doing hypothetically less genocide -- is a losing platform. You have to seriously promise major improvements.

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago

Nothing ever feels like it improves under centre-ground status quo politics. If things are miserable, they remain miserable.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

We are reaching levels of based never seen before.

History in the making.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Indeed, it's like "You think you're owning the libs? Mother fucker my very existence complicates their plans."

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[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It is also orthodox christmas tonight.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In the current environment Ded Moroz is going to get tracked on NORAD but only because they're trying to shoot him down, and then claim that his ~~balloon~~ sleigh was full of surveillance equipment

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

Huh? About what?

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

My condolences.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

Many such cases 😔

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

My dad: You and your best friend Obama.

Me: For the hundredth time, I hate Obama. I probably hate Obama more than you.

My dad: Yeah, you love Obama.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Epiphany is the day that some believe that Jesus was circumcised.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe he just had a weird fetish?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

He accidentally slammed it in his car door one day when he was super drunk.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Joe could go out like a real chad if his last words as president are: "It's Joever"

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd prefer he pardon Luigi.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He'd sooner sentence him to death.

"We're capitalists, sweaty"

A real Chad would have Trump and friends disappeared.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Arguing politics with someone who thinks 'let's go Brandon' is useful argumentation is like arguing religion with someone who never read their holy book or science with someone who barely passed 5th grade, their whole position is as superficial as possible and they think name calling is effective discourse in general because it works on people who are uneducated on the topic and rhetoric like themselves.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They started saying it because neolibs were trying to get the red MAGAs banned from communities and platforms for bad language, or just getting the algorithm to suppress it from feeds. Then when they switched, neolibs got pissed the red MAGAs were working around the algorithm filtering, and started posting this stupid meme.

Watching Red & Blue MAGA bicker is like watching toddlers argue.

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No they weren't no one gives a fuck if you swear. Maga people started saying it because of that news reporter at a nascar* (I believe) event. The crowd was chanting fuck joe Biden and she misheard it and it went viral.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really doubt she misheard it, the whole stadium was chanting it, she just couldn't repeat "fuck joe biden" on the news when they asked what they were chanting.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Naw our brains do that shit all the time - you don't hear someone quite right, and instead of recognizing that you didn't get the info, your noggin just fills in the blanks on its own. She very well may have clearly heard "Let's go Brandon!"

Perception is reality.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

It went viral because conservatives believe that it's a great example of how liberals will just make something like this up and run with it because they're used to using their media dominance to control any narrative in any way they want (reinforcing a narrative started by Limbaugh 37 years ago).

In reality, this woman really wasn't paying attention and made a mistake.

So yet again, conservatives believe what they want to be true. As we all know that's how reality works, right? So I'm just sitting here waiting to see how and when it breaks down. It's been almost 10 years now of it absolutely working for them in every possible way. It's kind of fascinating and unbelievable really that you can get as far as destroying the country completely just on faith and vapors, but here we are.

[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

She was interviewing the winning driver, named Brandon, and tried to spin it into a chant for him.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

Honestly this is very unimportant. It has no lasting impact, and will be forgotten by most later

[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 0 points 1 week ago

Its also Epiphany, my mom would celebrate on the 7th so she would get rosca de reyes on sale and I didn't know better until I reflected as an adult.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

"Triggered?"

No. Because I don't care what dumb people think.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Conservatives certainly do love their sadistic epistemology

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