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Clarification: after a bit of research it seems the olfactory section pertains to CCPA California law, many places have olfactory in the privacy policy because it is required by the law. I can't believe we reached a point where we have to put olfactory in the privacy policy, but then again it won't be long before Smell-O-Vision becomes reality.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision

They removed it, archived here: https://archive.ph/YYBuJ

Also have a California ip you get a different privacy policy.

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[–] Nima@leminal.space 69 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

my roku TV felt my wrath because it dared to show me a banner ad while I was in the middle of a game.

i promptly disabled internet on it completely. now it's a dumb TV. and my life is much better.

[–] electronVolt@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I want to recommend that you change your WiFi password. Even though you disabled the internet, it may still phone home.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 12 points 2 weeks ago

oh it's a relief that we have recently changed it. the bastard roku is completely locked out.

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[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

i’d rather masturbate with a cheese grater than own a “smart” tv….

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yep disabled Internet and I cast video from my phone to the TV so I can control what appears on the screen.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Never give your TV the wifi password.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 26 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The problem is that some TVs (cough Samsung) won't allow you to even use the thing as a monitor until you allow it online.

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago

That would have been an instant return for me.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I've heard tell of this, I've been wondering something. Can you change your wifi password, give it the new one for setup, and then disconnect and restore your typical password and continue to use the TV, or does it need an active connection?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

Good question, I've heard rumors that they'll eventually get upset and throw an impassable splash screen until you reconnect, but I've never seen it myself.

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[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 5 points 2 weeks ago

My workplace uses Samsung TVs. I found a trick to let it run without connecting to WiFi. On the screen where it asks you to connect to a network, just click right like you wanted to skip it and it will skip it even though it doesn't say that's an option. YMMV though, I can't say if it works for all TVs.

Better yet, don't buy a Samsung TV but this might come in handy if you happen to have one.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Damn so this already started?

Is LG also doing this?

I think current advise is Sony but they are a lot more expensive for the same panel.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not sure about LG. But it also depends on model as well afaik. Most Samsungs I know that were bought via Walmart, Best Buy, Costco, etc had that issue, but one of my commercial clients bought a couple and it was a non-issue, so ymmv. I typically like Sonys, but I also have a reseller account with them through my wholesaler and get them significantly cheaper than retail.

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[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

“we may collect information about your activities, like the apps you install or access (including usage statistics such as what apps you access, the time you access them, and how long you interact with them), and information about the videos and other content you select and stream within these streaming services.

When you use a smart TV with our operating system (e.g., a Roku TV model) with the Smart TV Experience enabled, we use Automatic Content Recognition (“ACR”) technology to collect information about what you watch or access (e.g., the programs, video games, ads and channels you viewed or accessed, and the date, time and duration of the viewing or access) via your TV’s antenna, cable box, game console, media player or other devices connected to your TV, and we may also collect additional information about the videos and other content you stream. The data collected while the Smart TV Experience is enabled may vary depending on your TV’s model and when you enabled the Smart TV Experience. For information specific to your TV, please see the Privacy > Smart TV Experience section of your TV’s settings menu. If you disable this setting on your TV, Roku will not use ACR on that TV, but Roku still receives information about your interactions and streaming activities on that TV through other methods.

If you use the Roku Media Player to view your video or photo files or listen to your music files, Roku will collect data about the files viewed within the Roku Media Player, such as codecs, and other metadata of the local files you play through the Roku Media Player”

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 13 points 2 weeks ago

Literally every smartTV OS does this. Roku isn't special. They all collect image metadata, at least by default.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They pushed these changes on Christmas Day.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Knowing no one would read it, since they're with family just trying to watch a lovely Christmas movie. Bastards.

Edit: autocorrect

[–] TheMachineStops@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The new section pertains to the California Law about biometric data collection, it seems they removed it because it was applied worldwide and they didn't want that. I used a California VPN server and the privacy policy changed for me.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If you buy something nowadays and it connects to the Internet, it's bad. Treat it like it's bad. VLAN it, firewall it, force it to use your DNS only and block everything until it breaks then figure out what it actually needs.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 19 points 2 weeks ago

then figure out what it actually needs.

It needs tracking to work.

Also, I hardly see my non tech relatives following your advice 🤣

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

I don't connect my Roku TV to the internet, and always use external devi e via HDMI.

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[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Every single SmartTV OS does this fyi.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Common tactic is to refuse it wifi connection but looks like they caught on to this too.

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[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Any recommended firewall block lists (or allow lists) for Roku?

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[–] wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Roku is, first and foremost, an advertising platform.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

My friend uses roku and I found it hilariously dystopian that the screen saver is basically just an artistic side scrolling city scape with billboards that advertise shit shows and movies you can stream or pay for.

Plex/Jellyfin is the only way to go.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably a catch-all for their next generation of Roku devices they're developing.

It is definitely a catch all, disclosure of this information is required by California law, that is the only reason they even put it in the policy. They seem to have accidentally released it worldwide, which is why they reverted it, now it only shows if you have a California ip.

[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why would I use Roku anyways? It's such an inferior television operating system.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I've had good luck with it for years in comparison to Samsungs junk. I only briefly tried LGs when I bought my C3 but fell back to the Roku because it's simpler to use (as a CEC device to turn on the audio receiver and change inputs automatically) and syncs between other Rokus. It also has the least amount of issues with Plex and all my Linux ISOs since they're in varying formats that don't always play nice with other clients (like the god damned POS Xbox client).

I understand there's a lot of tracking and phoning home but it's the least worst option in my experience.

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[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Look at this guy with choices.

I mean - these days u go to store and buy a tv. Many people don't even know what os is on it.

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