Asklemmy

Judging from their past and all the bad actions they have done in the past, bad for democracy, privacy, minorities and marginalised people and how openly they have a far/extreme-right bias. Well I feel extremely negative about them joining in. They were also part of destruction of another open/federated protocol in the past: they played big part in destroying XMPP/Jabber messaging. So I am afraid they will do their usual embrace, extend, and extinguish thing and their surveillance capitalist thing and yeah. no good. Best to block their instances outright.

They are free to set up an instance. Not sure who would federate with them.

I guess I'll just go back to reading books and watching movies full time.

Fuck all of those tech giants.

I have to say, i don't like it, i mean i got here, because i didn't want to have anything to do anymore with them, but i guess if we are careful enough, they probably can't do to much to destroy our current fediverse.

Lmao want nothing to do with them. One of the reasons I’m here is to escape these dogshit corpos

Even if they were somehow not evil, the sheer volume would technologically destroy any instance that tried to federate with them.

FYI: There is already a pact among some Fediverse operators to block any instance controlled by Meta.

It's the old Microsoft strategy again - Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

They deserve a good boot up the arse before they put one up our's.

🚨 DANGER! 🚨

…That about sums up my feelings on this subject.

News story I looked up. Fuck Meta and all the other money-sucking bastards that want to commodify every breath I take.

https://fediversereport.com/meta-plans-on-joining-the-fediverse-the-responses/

They see the fediverse trend gain9ng steam with the rise of Mastodon and go "Oh sheit we need to be on that for $$$". Proceed to embrace, extend, enshittify, and extinguish. Its nothing but Zuckerberg's gasping breaths to try and stay relevant as his company begins the very slow, but inevitable, backslide into technological irrelevance.

I will be leaving and/or blocking any instance that chooses to federate with anything related to Meta. They are antithetical to the entire foundation of the metaverse and they ruin everything they touch.

If Facebook behave and their instances have good moderation, they'll be successful. If they don't, they'll get defederated and turn into some niche twitter clone echo chamber like Truth Social.

Facebook is a company with great open-source tech contributions (React, GraphQL) but absolutely awful products (Literally every social media thing they've got their hands on), which is why they are desperately trying to turn their side project Oculus into their main product. And I think they, as the original "The Social Network" company, see the writing on the wall: that they either embrace federation and decentralization, or get swept away by it into the footnote of social media history.

Now, I don't think Facebook wants to JUST run an instance where they get to control everything. I think the most likely scenario is that Facebook will offer easy managed federated instance setup hosted on their own cloud servers for less tech inclined individuals and companies in the future, and they'll rebrand it as "the actual metaverse", which will finally end their tenure as an advertising company.

My problem with that is then the fediverse doesn't grow, meta controls the largest instance, and they make money off any posts that go viral here. I have to disagree for those reasons. They can go.

For myself, I'm not a fan either. But I think it could be a very good thing for the fediverse (still not a fan of that word)

which, as I understand it, is all about choice: the ability to easily access content across the fediverse, with the ability to ignore it just as easily.

If it ends up breeding toxicity, then I'll block any subs, and possibly the whole instance†. And if it gets really bad, I'll just find a lemmy/mastodon/whatever instance that has defederated from them.

† Sounds like this maybe isn't possible yet, but is being looked at https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2397

They will datamine all federated users They will set up a CDN for uploads on their platform that will track you like v.meta.com or i.meta.com.

They will probably train LLMs off the data. They will sell the data to advertisers or data brokers. They will most likely have ads or pay to boost.

They will diverge from the standard once they have the majority of users like google does with chrome and the web.

To me it sounds like they are trying to Embrace, Extend, Extinguish the fediverse. I wouldn't doubt if at first they adopted it with all the standards then started doing proprietary crap

fuck that noise, absolutely do not federate with them

In general, it's great when companies embrace standards and open source. Though in the case of Microsoft, they just did it to gain the market share (embrace, extend, extinguish).

I'm under no illusion that they would be doing it out of the kindness of their hearts or desire to be compliant with standards.

But..i also don't think I can criticize them yet for wanting to do so.

Pros:

• my friends join
• larger community = more content
• meta funding would likely contribute to fediverse growth and improvements
• any instance can defederate them from said instance, which would mitigate almost every con

Cons:

• Meta is evil and wants all your information to profile you and sell to other companies for profit

Block them or I’m gone

If they join the Fediverse I am leaving. We have made the Fediverse to get away from coorporations like them, letting them join us will defeat the whole point of what we have.

Just block them from federating and move on.

To paraphrase from a bank robber - Meta is where the users are. If we want open source technology to grow, we need to have users. If you block Meta out of the gate, how do you get their users to transition? IMO, energy should be spent on strategizing how to get the users to transition to open source instances, not getting people riled up to block them immediately.

It's an easy fix. If an instance you're a part of federates with them then just move to a new instance.

Hopefully this will put instance blocking on the top of the list.

I didn’t know they’d joined. Do you have a source for this?

Fuuuuuck no! This isn't actually happening right? This is just an idea I hope?

We know very little at this point. My view is “wait and see”. Little point in speculating about things now IMHO.

All instances should defederated with corporation instances ASAP

I think this is so interesting...

For a refreshing change, we have corporations coming to the users, not the other way around.

I'm deeply skeptical, but I'm glad communities and hubs have the power to block them outright.