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[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The difference is that Xi is now the CEO.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (40 children)

What does that even mean? Do you think he personally plans and runs all of the public sector of the PRC that take's up over half of the economy?

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[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

That's why you should all do one each.

[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Lmao. There's a Joe McCarthy inside every gringo. Nice thought terminating cliche tho.

[–] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Don't you dare sully these greats by comparing yourself to them

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 month ago

They're comrades

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

You would consider all of them "tankies" if they were around today

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, you would have called them tankies. These people are comrades, and liberals love stealing their valor. Castro, a person you here refer to as a "great," said

"Xi Jinping is one of the strongest and most capable revolutionary leaders I have met in my life. I think China is a socialist country, and Vietnam is a socialist nation as well. And they insist that they have introduced all the necessary reforms in order to motivate national development and to continue seeking the objectives of socialism.

There are no fully pure regimes or systems. In Cuba, for instance, we have many forms of private property. We have hundreds of thousands of farm owners. In some cases they own up to 110 acres. In Europe they would be considered large landholders. Practically all Cubans own their own home and, what is more, we welcome foreign investment.

But that does not mean that Cuba has stopped being socialist."

Don't try to absolve them of their words and turn them into toothless liberals for you to celebrate, either condemn them honestly or uphold them honestly.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Putin: all my CEOs executed themselves

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I heard they all accidentally fell out of windows.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Three times

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

Oh, so like Boeing whistleblowers?

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It is indeed possible for a person/entity to do a good thing and a bad thing. Who would've guessed, it's actually incredibly likely. I'm sure Luigi was no angel and can be criticized about many things, though he likely didn't have the power to perform systematic human rights transgressions.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 0 points 1 month ago

Wow, so insightful!

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I bet he's a shit surfer and just hangs out on his board looking cool, but bails when a big wave comes in.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 0 points 1 month ago

Pretty damning if true. Paints him in a whole new light. Feeling betrayed.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

One is a normal person oppressed by an unfair system.

The other is a tankie doing the oppression.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Oppressing the owners of capital is good, actually. If you don't do it you end up like the US where everyone has to pay them for everything all the time and the police is only there to prevent you from doing anything about it.

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

China ranks second in the world in number of millionaires as well as number of billionaires.

[–] Swallowtail@beehaw.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

China ranks second in the world in human population, too.

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They also have more millionaires per capita than Countries like Russia, but I focused on total number because a country that actually oppressed capital owners wouldn't have any billionaires.

[–] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago

China’s top 1% income share is lower than US and Russia. Top 10% income share is also lower in China.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
  1. Quantity of bourgeoisie is not an indication of who runs the country or which is primary, public or private property

  2. China has the second biggest population in the world, period.

The PRC saw what happened when you cracked down too hard on wealth inequality too early in the USSR, there was significant brain drain and people took what they could elsewhere. This eventually led to decreased growth and contributed to collapse. The PRC instead allows billionaires (so long as they don't commit crimes), and as a consequnce they now have the largest economy by PPP and second largest by GDP. It's a "boiling the frog" approach.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Per capita or total?

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

By this logic, a monarchy that keeps the aristocracy in line is better than the US democracy. A benevolent dictator is still a dictator.

[–] SoulWager@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The problem with a benevolent dictator is that they die eventually, and are replaced by a non-benevolent dictator, or a civil war, or both. Unfortunately it looks like the US democracy might have the same outcome.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

In what manner is Xi a dictator? The fact that he has been reelected democratically and hasn't lost to someone else?

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Except Xi Jinping is not oppressing owners of capital. China has lots of oligarchs that in some ways have a tighter grip on society than their western counterparts. He's oppressing people that are "inconvenient" to him.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Did you get that info from the same dudes insisting that killing Brian Thompson was, like, not okay guys? Businessmen in China are scared shitless of the party, and so should they, the party has 87 million members and a 90+ approval rating.

There's no CEO in china wielding one tenth of the influence that weird nazi Elon Musk has, or Bill Gates' vaccine privatizing ass.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Elon Musk openly daydreams about being Ma Huateng. What does that tell you?

[–] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Yeah, but they get jailed for literally anything else lol

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

What do you mean?

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[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

The original was funny to me because people thought the second guy was fine when the reality would be if a woman is calling human resources there's probably something there. It's a joke told from the perspective of someone who's unable to see anything wrong and is only representing their side of the story. So I thought this was a riff on that idea, and viewed in that light this version is funny too.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Working class executing CEOs that work against them

Ruling class executing CEOs who don't work for them

Slight difference

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (20 children)

That's an anti-Marxist view of class. What is the "ruling class" you speak of in the PRC? Government isn't class, but an extension of the class in power, so which class is in power?

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the ruling class in china is the working class since its a dictatorship of the proletariat. So commentor is kinda right, tho im sure commentor doesn't mean it that way.

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[–] within_epsilon@beehaw.org 0 points 1 month ago

Absolutely. Power is the difference. Vertical power structures all look the same. Call it communism, but those at the bottom are still ruled by those at the top. Instead give me some of that horizontal, bottom up power. No gods, no masters.

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Playing connect-the-dots by just scribbling whatever we want on top of the dots

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Actually, Hitler did the same. So you’re saying that what he did was not wrong?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Equating Communism with fascism is false thinking, because it ignores the real classes served by each and therefore the direction of power and the consequences of their implementation. Communism has always corresponded with dramatic working class improvements while fascism has served the bourgeoisie. I highly recommend Blackshirts and Reds.

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

You really pissed off the .world neolibs with this one. Good work.

[–] gravityowl@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every now and then, the .ml side of this community comes through with these inaccurate tankie memes. You win some, you lose some I guess...

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 0 points 1 month ago

what's inaccurate about this meme?

Death to America

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