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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

the rich are the only dangerous minority

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 days ago

Socialism is the only answer.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Can Earth Support a Human Future? Maybe, If the Rich ~~Consume Less~~ gets consumed

FTFY

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

Given their diet. Pretty sure that would increase methane production.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

only if you don't believe in guillotines.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Is the guillotine in the room with us right now?

To be clear, I support an "Eat The Rich" global policy.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Instead of waiting for them to break their 400th consecutive pinky promise to consume less, how about No More Rich?

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Time to reset the initial conditions, and this time, make sure there are safeguards to prevent this level of inequality happening again.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Can Earth support a human future? Maybe, if we kill more rich people.

[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Well thats an interesting idea: how many more people can the earth support for each billionaire

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You have to redistribute that wealth with socialism, killing the people who currently possess it will just create new billionaires, it won't solve the problem.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

You can have redistribution without socialism. There was a modest amount of redistribution even under Eisenhower.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 7 points 3 days ago

we need to consume the rich. There's no other way

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Refreshing to not see any comments about "You are part of the global top 1%" from people with no understanding of math.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 6 points 3 days ago

I reckon Earth probably can support an ant future for quite a bit longer than apes.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Bring back sumptuary laws!

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The Earth only can survive with Humans with Humanity, it's not only the rich, it's ignorance, stupidity, fanatism and greed the problem. It's all the stupid people which vote for those which give power to the rich (MAGA rednecks, fascists, flat earther, anti-vax, influencers "Climate change is a Hoax", buyed media fom these people with fake news, etc.).

The bottom line is not that someone is rich, but what he do with the wealth and how he earned it..

[–] robinn_@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Voting for Democrats is also voting for those that give power to the rich. But this must be looked at in the larger context of the U.S. political system, which shows that it’s not a problem of voters but of the essence of the state itself.

All of the issues in your analysis were explained over a century ago: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes US is different, because it isn't a real Democracy, with 2 Partys, one conservative neoliberal and other extreme right wing christo-fascists.

[–] robinn_@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

It's all the stupid people which vote for those which give power to the rich (MAGA rednecks

Clearly you weren’t talking ab the U.S. or implying the legitimacy of U.S. democracy.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Society developed the tools to manipulate humans based on common errs we make, and so of course the logical end-point is the continued control of those already in power. We've also deprived the vast majority of people from the tools for counteracting common mistakes, behind paywalls, time theft, and esoteric elitist language. By this, we've kept the means of inoculating ourselves against control out of reach.

The rich directly define how this world by who they lobby, what charities they fund or deprive, and what they make their news outlets pedal. They are the reason for ignorance, stupidity, and fanaticism.

First we must educate others in order to inoculate them. Then we must organize to wrench our power back to ourselves and away from the elite.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

It is clear that in a cultured and informed people these policies cannot subsist, which is why they do everything in their power, helped for centuries by the church and today by related information media, study plans, etc. to keep the people ignorant, obedient and submissive. But this only shows that it cannot be solved with "eat the rich", this would be simplifying this too much, it is this whole system that puts people in a spiral that is already very difficult to undo, until a bad awakening occurs, but then it's late.