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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/15313778

Officers showed up at the home and found a man struggling with a woman over a knife. An officer opened fire and struck the man, killing him at the scene. Only later did they discover the man who was killed lived at the home and was struggling to fend off the woman who had broken into his home.

Police say Brandon Durham, 43, had called 911 and reported multiple people outside his home shooting, then told the 911 operator that someone had entered his home through the front and back doors and he was locking himself in the bathroom.

He also told the 911 operator that he was home with his 15-year-old daughter, according to police. Officers kicked open the door after arriving on scene and hearing someone screaming as well as damage to vehicles parked outside the property, police said.

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[–] islands@lemmy.cafe 12 points 5 hours ago

Imagine you're on a mission to kill your ex, and you just harass them until they call the cops and you know the cops will kill them for you.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 60 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The officer who fired is 26 years old and has been with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department since 2021. An investigation is underway to determine if the officer acted appropriately when he fired his weapon.

That's going to be a No, dawg. They did not act appropriately.

[–] dan@upvote.au 42 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

We all know what the actual outcome will be though. The police will investigate themselves and find that they didn't do anything wrong, while the officer is either on paid leave or silently transferred to another department.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 27 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yup.
Each officer needs to be personally accountable or this will never change. They need to be charged for the crime they commit.

But yeah, i know I'm just preaching to the choir. Everyone knows what's going one. It's frustrating.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I like the idea of requiring indemnity insurance. Preferably paid for by the city.

Bad cops get higher rates; horrible cops get dropped because it’s too expensive to maintain.

(Similar to malpractice insurance required for doctors and surgeons.)

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I agree except for the "paid by the city" part. That would mean that the tax payers foot the bill for them.

Much better to make cop "unions" pay for it so they actually have to use their vast funds on something other than protecting criminals in uniform from the consequences of their actions for a change.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That’s always going to be true, though. All you would be doing is making the job suck a bit more. (Or they get a pay hike to compensate.)

All you would be accomplishing is making it that much harder to get done. Once the insurance is in place, then you can start taking the excess payments out of the cops pockets, (and reward the well behaved cops with a bonus, since they’d presumably get a discount,)

The first step is to get the insurance done, though.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

you would be doing is making the job suck a bit more

Fine by me. There are far too many cops. The ones most motivated by money and impunity quitting because they're being held criminally and financially responsible for their crimes is the mother of all win–wins in my book 🤷

Or they get a pay hike to compensate.

Not likely since wage per cop is the one police expense that the center right to fascist spectrum of municipal governments don't want to increase.

Besides, cop "unions" aren't ACTUAL unions that are funded mostly via union dues. They're political pressure groups funded mostly by donations from the rich people whose property cops exist to protect from the masses.

All you would be accomplishing is making it that much harder to get done

Not really, no. Can't get harder than impossible and the future politicians who would be willing to do it all would be just as willing to do it my way as yours, if not more. Let's not commit the classic neoliberal mistake of making unacceptable concessions before we even start negotiating.

Once the insurance is in place, then you can start taking the excess payments out of the cops pockets

Yeah no, that's not how it works. At least not when we still have Neoliberals in charge. They'll do a tenth of what people ask for and then declare the matter settled forever.

Real transformative change doesn't happen in tiny bits. There's always regressiveness chipping away at progress, leading to it all fallen to the ratchet principle if we don't go far enough on the first try.

Incrementalism isn't the "reasonable" path. It's the path of least resistance from the owner donors who corrupt politicians care the most about to the detriment of everyone else.

and reward the well behaved cops

Don't forget the unicorns and the good billionaires! 🙄

[–] pack@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of places self insure, but some already buy insurance as you describe. Qualified immunity is a pretty high bar to get over, but some people do get settlements. I'd argue insurance should have to be bought by the officer, or their union to have any effect on their behavior.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Most of those, it’s the department’s insurance (and most places have that,)

Malpractice insurance is a thing for doctors- they have to have it. It’s an individual obligation; frequently hospitals will cover it for them (and offer plans,) but those plans are managed by a third party- the kind of third party who hates paying out.

What this really means is that doctors who have a history of skirting best practices and getting dinged are more expensive to cover; where doctors that are more competent/less likely to fuck up… get reduced premiums.

Guess what kind of doctor gets to told “yeah sorry, we’re not hiring you”?

Translate that to cops… officers get dropped or dinged for relatively minor excessive force incidents- usually before they get to the point of barging in and killing some one.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

Absolutely. I'm all for that idea.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 9 points 8 hours ago

Meanwhile, it's revealed that this is his third precinct after assaulting multiple black men in his previous two positions

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Why do people even call the police anymore?

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 17 points 6 hours ago

Bro, we had a petty theft at work.

While identifying culprits, my coworker, with a straight face, said to me, "The security guard is pretty much a cop, so there's no way he could have done it" implying cops are the highest form of trust.

I don't know why they thought that.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Because insurance requires you to get your payout?

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 14 points 8 hours ago

Insurance just need you that you open a police report. Report online or in person in the police station and make the claim with that.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 28 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Officers showed up at the home and found a man struggling with a woman over a knife. An officer opened fire and struck the man, killing him at the scene.

See, being a man isn't always advantageous.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 10 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I don't know why people are downvoting this

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Because it fundamentally clashes with their world view.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I upvoted, but I don't think it's necessarily a clash of worldviews. I think it's the "boo-hoo poor me I'm a man" sentiment that I initially felt reading that, even as a man. It's giving men's rights at face value. Then I realized that yeah, this is one of the few instances where being a man--or more specifically being a man caught fighting a woman--will likely get you harmed or killed regardless of everything else.

But who knows, maybe it's just me and people have other motives.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Neutral onlooker and cis male here.

I think it's the "boo-hoo poor me I'm a man" sentiment that I initially felt reading that, even as a man.

I felt the same way. Ok, yea we have the disadvantage of being seen as the bigger threat by other males? Because we typically are? Because of some of the many advantages we have as men?

It feels weird to even call this a disadvantage, because it comes from having a bunch of advantages, if that makes any sense. We wouldn't have a disadvantage here if we didn't have natural advantages, in the first place.

Besides, this particular situation didn't have as much to do with his gender disadvantage as his racial disadvantage, anyways. It was all exacerbated by the disadvantage of the cop having no discernible brain cells.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Ehh humor is tough online

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago

LOL but it has it's perks.