Fediverse

Please don't. I like not dealing with redditeurs.

I'm just sick of Reddit.

How can we convince the people over there to move away?

I see things like this all the time on the fediverse. There's this sentiment that reddit sucks and it's nothing but bots and shithousery, but for some people they still want that crowd to migrate here.

I think Lemmy needs to let go of the idea of the "good" parts of reddit transferring here and everyone miraculously behaving differently, because it just isn't going to happen. The people left on reddit are there because that's the experience they want. Trying to import them en masse to Lemmy again is just going to bring more irritation and frustration IMO.

I think Lemmy would be better served working to improve and develop the communities they already have through users that are already here. Find ways to make your interests appealing to others. Be active in ways and places you usually wouldn't, and Lemmy will grow up around us organically. None of these social media giants have anything of substance to offer their huge user bases besides the niche communities you guys are missing, and that's why people spend so much time doomscrolling.

What we are missing is that someone on Reddit took the time to get these communities going too. Reddit wasn't an instant success, it took the efforts of the early membership to drive engagement and user growth. Lemmy is obsessed with the idea of short cutting this step to steal members from other networks, and that's silly.

No one is going to leave a well designed botnet social media for a black hole called the fediverse. In order to gain more meaningful membership we must first prove that Lemmy is worth overcoming the barriers to enter and engage with the people that are already here. Once the rest of the internet finds out we're cool, they'll show up.

We don't. We just continue to stay here and grow and flourish naturally. I see no need to rush.

Advertise one instance instead of just saying "join lemmy"

Most people don't change unless they have to, and rarely even then. You'd have to make it so that they can't visit Reddit anymore.

Even on reddit itself, you can't get people to move from a sick community with hostile moderation to the preferred community. /r/Canada got taken over by /r/metacanada what feels like decades ago, and they turned it into a post modern bigoted classist hellhole, but it still ranks far above the "real" Canadian sub /r/OnGaurdForThee.

Maybe better not to compete with existing communities. Develop some anchor communities on Lemmy that are doing their own thing on topics that aren't well served on Reddit.

Post in communities that align with your interests. Post in communities for your geographic area, if you're comfortable with that. Comment on posts you see, if you think you can add something of value to the conversation.

Where does the believe even originate from, that Redditors are any different than Lemmings? Basically the same people minus the youngest, because they stick with using Reddit. They might or might not migrate eventually.

Make communities here bigger by contributing and spread the word of Reddit alternative. Make search engines find Lemmy content and then it goes on it's own. I guess Bluesky will push the Fediverse, but I wonder how long people will stick to a Twitter esque when they could have Lemmy full text conversations and tree structures?

Lemmy needs to mature on a technical basis. The Lemmy service itself is still lacking significantly. But it it progressing.

Outside of technical limitations, focus on communities. A few good ones are better than many mediocre ones.

Stop using Reddit.

One suggestion to increase participation on Lemmy of those already here is to encourage people to spend some time just looking at the "all new posts" feed. I look at it a few times per day and was surprised at the number of Lemmy groups that I never knew existed. There are far to many groups here that started out good and just faded away. If it's an interest of yours post there and try to rejuvenate the group. Message the existing moderator if you can be added as a mod for that group.

They allegedly remove posts/comments about lemmy? And even if they don't, I feel like it could have the opposite effect. People would see those posts just like ads/promotion/spam. Which would give lemmy a bad rep. Unless something big happens, like some big community switching to lemmy, or someone with a big following promotes lemmy, it will hardly see a big spike in user count.

The only way is to passively "advertise" it. Maybe add the link to your lemmy account in your reddits about you section, if you are making OC add your lemmy handle there as well...

And the last way, which is most likely the best way to do it, is to post good content on lemmy, keep communities alive. And people will eventually join.

Ask and answer their popular questions again in here. Also, a popular search engine should list the thread on Lemmy.

Send interesting Lemmy links to people you know. That's how they get interested, and check it out. You won't convince many people by extolling the benefits of the Fediverse, you just have to show them that they'll be entertained, and maybe they'll be somewhat more likely to switch if they know it won't enshittify. I'd say you should send links from instances that don't federate with some of the weirder places like Hexbear though, that's likely to turn people off until they realize how the Fediverse works.

One thing that we could use more of that draws people in is posts about relationship issues. Entertaining for almost everyone, and pretty much anyone can create them from their own experience.

Lots of edgelords here like "I don't want the reddit plebs here" as though they weren't happily one of them a couple years ago.

Let them come over. Put the idea of federation to the test. Isn't that one of the major features of federation, if there are a bunch of shitty people you can just defederate or use a different community?
If federation does what it claims then it'll only be an improvement.

I agree with people saying not to force people here if they don't wanna be (not that we could), but the people saying that folks still on reddit are there because they inherently prefer the reddit application UX is crazy. They prefer the content in reddit. And they have a point.

Folks here are way more insufferable than reddit. Just the other day there was a post being like "why do reddit users hate Lemmy?" And linked a reddit post about it. But the comments on the reddit post were considered, nuanced, and polite; while the comments on the Lemmy post were a bunch of neckbeards crying about how terrible reddit users are.

TLDR y'all need to look in the mirror.

Edit: typo degenerate → defederate

I don't want the masses from Reddit to migrate to Lemmy. I want people currently on Lemmy to post and comment. More engagement is what we need. No one is going to move to Lemmy if they see the top posts are hours old with only 100 upvotes and no comments.

If they didn't leave Reddit by now, they like the new Reddit experience.

Don't bother, just make your own communities or magazines and contribute to them regularly.

"If you build it, they will come."

You can tell people about it if you like (especially if it comes up casually in conversation), but if you try to push it too hard you'll drive people away.

If the fediverse grows too quickly, it will also introduce more problems existing systems may not be able to handle.

be the change you want to see. offer alternatives to subs pissed about over moderation, ads and bot activity. some instances still let you create your own communities, like mine https://moist.catsweat.com/

Engage with communities here. The politics and tech communities are lively enough, but niche communities are lacking. Give people a reason to come here who aren't politics/tech junkies.

Something I've been thinking about is that changes only happen organically, so I think it's good to not be an insistent advocate for a platform X, Y or Z. Instead, I think that perhaps it's better, instead, to simply use the platform the person is more favorable towards whenever possible, and if people then share something worth sharing, it should slowly bring people over. And regarding the annoying part, at most, making a note about technicalities and the type of people in the site could be good if discussions the person is engaged in allows, and if the person didn't burn people's patience by being pedantic.

There needs to be less one sided group think, but I’m not sure that’s even possible anymore at this point. Just look at the US and how they voted this year. None of those voters want to be on this super woke platform. The population on here are the minority and just need to get used to it.