Ofiuco

joined 3 weeks ago
[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 hours ago

In the real world, you cool down hostility by talking it out.

I mean... it depends, not everything can be descalated, dependes on the person, their intentions and the place.

On the internet it’s the opposite, and that approach gives the village idiot a global megaphone to radicalize or enrage others with.

Pretty much, people know how to behave or they don't... and they can learn or not, but we have no reason to tolerate the village idiots.

I think mass adoption social media is new enough that we’re still figuring out how it should work.

I remember old forums, there was no tolerance for trolls and you could get punished along the troll for feeding it, so people learned to leave them alone and just report them, good sites/forums were heavily moderated and curated.
I think it started to go down the drain when moderation/ownership was removed from the users, just like with community servers for multiplayer games, companies care only about their own interests so allowing trolls who cause engagement by bait were more than welcome, they just pretended to moderate the services.
Nowadays... well reddit punishes mods who actually moderate the subs so that's a waste of time, the fediverse seems to need to learn to just not tolerate nor engage with trolls... and the users have to learn to just report and block, just like the BlueSky users do so the mods can locate and remove the trolls (either users or servers).
I think admins/mods must be MUCH less tolerant of possible trolls and not be afraid about curating the content to their liking... it's their server/community after all.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 3 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Which is honestly how it should be, feeding the trolls or tolerating them is detrimental to any platform, even engaging with them to correct them is giving them fuel.

Reporting and blocking is the only way and have always been, I don't know what changed that people decided tolerating/engaging with them was being the better person.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What drove you from dbzer0 to cafe, blocking ml?

Yeah, ml and hex.
Too much mexican goverment propaganda and getting swarmed by those users to defend it, is not a good time.

It takes trial and then error because it's user depend, some people might have gone the opposite, from cafe to dbzer0

I know, and it's a pain... And it will always be a pain. That's also what discourages me from trying piefed, having to server jump until I find a decent one again.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah but usually it's just "try piefed", with a smug tone so it's kind of hard to take people seriously.

Aside from that, adoption becomes a hassle for everything fediverse due to the whole pick your server thing, I went from fmhy to nsfw to dbzero to cafe... I'd be so happy if picking a server would not require so much trial and error.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 9 points 5 days ago

Here in México we have a say that goes like:

The worst enemy of a mexican is another mexican

You connect the dots