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Iran announced plans to open a “hijab removal treatment clinic” to provide “scientific and psychological treatment” for women defying the country’s mandatory hijab laws, sparking outrage from activists and human rights groups.

Critics, including UK-based Iranian journalist Sima Sabet, condemned the clinic as “chilling” and akin to social exclusion.

Human rights lawyer Hossein Raeesi noted the clinic is unprecedented under both Islamic and Iranian law.

The move follows increased arrests, forced disappearances, and alleged abuses in psychiatric facilities targeting women and protesters in breach of hijab laws.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 177 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Deeply disturbing. It's so easy to forget that this is a picture of Iran in the 1970s.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...in Teheran, while the rest of the country was pretty much still tribal.

While it's absolutely true that the average Iranian is vastly, vastly more liberal than their government let's not turn around and glorify the Shah regime either. You don't need to go back in time to show Iranians in a positive light.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But you won't find it in Teheran anymore. Iran was diverse then, now it's as backwards in the big cities as it was in the country.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Iran didn't turn tribal and is still diverse AF. Don't confuse the people and overall culture with the backwards government which isn't exactly popular.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Who downvoted this, and why?

[–] Lightsong@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is a picture of Tehran's upper class youth from the 70's, and it is often posted as if it were everyday life in Iran.

Spoiler: The rich in Iran can still do whatever they want.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What do women of the same class look like now?

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The same when you look at all the party reels on tiktok or insta. Not that I do, but I know someone who has an Iraniam girlfriend and they always party when they go back to Tehran, and they showed me a couple shorts from their trip.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ive never used Instagram or tiktok.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

You are not missing a thing.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tiktok is not real life. Go watch or read Persepolis. I also know someone from Iran, they don't go back anymore for good reasons. Things are getting worse there.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

The reels that they were showing me on those platform were real. It was literally the person I know and their girlfriend partying on some rooftop Terrace in Tehran.

This was two years ago though. They don't go back any more either. Things may indeed have changed, but I lack a reliable source.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

Imagine the world without America / Israel invading anywhere that showed any sign of building a socialist society.

[–] wasabi@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow, this is pretty much Gilead in real life

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I still don't understand how at the same time, men are feral beasts who can't resist the urge to rape someone because checks notes they saw her hair, yet they are the logical ones who can be trusted with power and responsibility.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

I could be wrong, but I think the religious logic is that it keeps the men in the community focused on society and their families rather than casting a wandering eye towards other women. Pretty sure that Muslim men aren’t looking at themselves as barely restrained rapists.

Whole thing is awful though, and I am in no way trying to support mandatory hijab laws.

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not so different from "conversion" clinic for LGBTQ people, no?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

It's a really weird situation they have with that

Since the 1979 Revolution, the legal code has been based on Islamic law. Despite allowing sex reassignment surgery, homosexuality in Iran remains a crime punishable by death.[2][3][4][14][15] In Iran, this framework is occasionally viewed as a means to "correct" individuals who may otherwise express same-sex desires, offering an option to conform to heteronormative standards

So being gay is punishable by death, but it's fine if you go through gender reassignment surgery since that makes you a woman. With their attitude against gays you'd think they'd have similar attitude against sex change but I guess not.

[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Iran Dictionary (updated)

Clinic: An establishment or room where women can endure repeated rape and beatings until they agree to wear a hijab.

[–] rkk@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would rather blind all male who has a problem seeing a woman. This is the biggest man made crap in this universe. There is a starman waiting in the sky... They just laughing their ass off seeing this madness.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No no no, it's not the strong men that is the problem, it's the weak women with their fragile womanly figure seducing the strong virile men, it's the weak and powerless women who need to be reigned in and controlled.. So the strong powerful men won't be uncontrollably seduced..../S ^

[–] rkk@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

strong man has strong eyelid, I would still blind them.

[–] Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

Some people are fucking insane, even just for thinking about something like this.

[–] Heterocephalus@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

I don´t want to live on this planet anymore.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

And a convenient brain surgery called a "lobotomy"

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago

How can they still think men are the "strong gender"?

This shit offends me as a man.
As if I'm not able to control myself
Fucking assholes

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I used to be able to read stories like this and be glad I didn't live in a country that had nationally state-sponsored things like this.

I won't be able to feel that way any more.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

I had to look up the vaguely Kurdistan-looking flag in the background — for anyone else wondering, it's this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8Az%C3%AEdxan_Protection_Force

And the other flag is of course the pre-revolution flag of Iran (which always reminds me of St. Mark's Lion on the flag of the Venetian Republic)

Will these treatments involve mineral supplements applied externally at high speeds?

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Did the fuckers who developed Project 2025 copy the Iranians? If not, they will add it.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I just can't get into the headspace of someone who's a big enough cunt to think any of this is a good idea. No matter how much slack I try to give conservative nutjobs, no matter how deep into the rabbit hole I imagine going, it's not just dumb, but obviously dumb.

[–] maplebar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why would the #1 backers of Palestine do this?

I thought that Islam was an open and accepting cult, but now I'm confused because this just seems oppressive and toxic!

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Turns out shitty people are going to be shitty regardless of any group affiliation.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

With Iran (and Afghanistan) being specifically an Islamic theocracy it can be a bit hard to separate the religion from this equation. Though why the other person decided to bring up Palestine, that's more of mystery to me.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's because they're bigoted.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No shit but this particular bigotry is happening in name of and (according to them) in accordance of Islam, in an Islamic theocracy.

It'd be like claiming some antiabortion Christian sentiments had nothing to do with Christianity. Especially hard to claim such when those sentiments are mainstream or aren't that far off.