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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If that were the case, climate change caused the entire Roman Empire, the Chinese empire, the Mayans, the Songhai, all of feudalism...

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Changing climate did have a major impact on all of those Empires though.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Usually it's a combination with dysfunctional politics, war, resource depletion and climate change.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not entirely sure climate change couldn't just be argued to be the cause of all the others there.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

You can have succession wars, incompetent inbred rulers and overexploitation without any climate change. But climate change would make it more likely to happen and make the outcome worse.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Who upvotes this nonsense? lol.

The causes of problems today are not necessarily the causes of problems for mayans, ancient romans, etal. It's sad that I have to say this.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or maybe a broken political and economic system is causing a gathering of wealth in the hands of the 1% which is a major factor behind both climate change and increasing authoritarianism

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Any system will become broken is the same way. The top always gets greedy.

Well in my ideal system (a form of decentralised anarchy) there is no “top”.

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 7 points 3 months ago

Late stage capitalism is to blame for both.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

Broken education system is to blame

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You got it backwards mate

Authoritarianism enables climate change, not the other way around

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

I have had the belief for a few years that the rise of fascism is an emotional response to being afraid of an uncertain future that people feel like they have no power over.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It was 9/11 butterfly effect. The US's wars caused a refugee crisis, xenophobes across North America and Europe got their panties in a bunch about all the new brown people, turned to nationalism. New (and popular) authoritarian anti terrorism laws probably didn't help either.

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