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Two women were removed from a British Airways flight at Heathrow after an altercation reportedly provoked by a Make America Great Again (Maga) cap.

The incident occurred on Saturday as the women, aged 40 and 60, were preparing to board a flight bound for Austin, Texas.

Witnesses said that one woman took offence at her fellow passenger’s red Maga hat, worn by supporters of the former US president Donald Trump, and asked that it be removed, the Sun reported.

Punches were allegedly exchanged between the two women, both booked to fly in premium economy, before they ended up squaring up to one another in the cabin. When the captain called for assistance, police arrived at the scene to escort the passengers from the aircraft.

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[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 137 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I also want to punch MAGAs and their dorky red hats, but you don't really get to tell them to remove them. That's their dumb fucking choice. Not worth getting booted off a plane for. Your energy would be better spent walking past them multiple times during the flight to fart.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 31 points 4 weeks ago

Of note, there's articles of people being thrown off flights for Palestine related garb. Agree with all you said but the airlines are clearly splitting hairs

[–] Ziro427@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

I am reminded of Benjamin Franklin's "Fart Proudly"

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember, they want to tell others what to wear and how to live - the least we can do is treat them the way they want to treat others.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe, maybe not.

On an airplane is absolutely bad place to start shit.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 86 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Protip: when you're on an airplane, the pilot will consider "can I keep everyone safe".

If no, they will have whomever removed they deem necessary to proceed safely.

You have 0 say in this decision. The decision will not be reversed. Causing a scene will make it worse for you (think no-fly).

On a plane? Pipe down. STFU. Get to your destination.

[–] Coach@lemmy.world 99 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Then, after you get to your destination, punch a Nazi or two.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago
[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait are you saying I'm not special?

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The customer is king, the passenger... Peasant

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

The investor is king now.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 41 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

premium economy

You can only pick one of these

[–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

On most carriers this is code for "coach, but it's an exit row so we'll charge extra for the legroom."

[–] Tanoh@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it isn't.

There are different names for different airlines, like economy plus or extra. Usually it means something like a bit bigger seats (usually not lie flat though), a less crowded section, better food, etc.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

On domestic US flights, the “premium economy” tier is just an economy seat with an extra few inches of legroom, and sometimes complimentary alcohol. It might also be a refundable ticket if you buy it up front as opposed to as an upgrade. That’s all

[–] 01011@monero.town 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's what 'economy' used to be 25 years ago.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

No? More space, better position in the plane, better boarding group, generally better refund policy, better miles accrual

Edit what's the downvotes? Each thing is a more premium version of the basic economy.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because they're not premium features they're just somewhat less shit.

Premium would be hookers and blow.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's silly and not seen anywhere in the commercial flight market

Position in the place for example there's only so much plane and there's food space and bad. "Somewhat less shit" is a short rope as there's only so many rows, and since are better than others.

Being able to refund is clearly premium.

Etc etc

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Material, physical changes to the customer experience.

You're literally getting a different seat as a product, or a different relationship with the purchase, as a service.

I'm not simping for the airline here, but it's literally different (and stupidly more expensive)

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If I say that receiving 2 olives on my side salad instead of 1 is "a premium experience", it's not possible to prove that assertion false but it makes the word premium completely meaningless in any practical way.

My point is, I'm not going to argue with you about your definition of premium.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well it's clearly described what you get. It's not just "more".

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's like you didn't read my comment.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm allowed to further discuss the on topic subject, especially as clarification of my point.

Edit you minimized the discussion to quantitative "more olives", and I clarified my position as being more than that, and that the definition of premium is a known thing.

If you are all set, stop replying. I promise you I wouldn't double reply to repull you.

Edit also you entered this conversation debating what "premium" is so don't act like that's invalid discussion.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Right? I worry for the US.. and the rest of the world. A lot.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Its not going to be a good...rest of the year. Regardless of who wins, honestly. A kamala win just defines the specific way it will be shitty distinct from the shittiness of a Trump win.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

I hope a Kamala win results in a boot on the neck of the fascists that have propped up Trump.. but they will probably do nothing. And let is fester.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago

Grown-ass people behaving like children.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

LOL let them wear MAGA hats if they want, it just flags them as idiots.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

There's a guy at work who wears a MAGA hat all the time. I often think about telling him I want nothing to do with him liking a fucking Nazi but have to be civil and polite because he also acts the same way. It fucking sucks I can't tell him what I really think because we're in a professional setting and it would be stupid to start something up.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If he's bringing politics into the workplace, that's unprofessional behavior, and he should be reported to HR.

And just because you work together doesn't mean you have to be friends. Only talk to him when it's strictly necessary and ignore him otherwise, and he'll probably eventually get the hint that you don't like him.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

...he'll probably eventually get the hint that you don't like him.

You give them far too much credit.

True. I even added the "probably" after writing it for that reason, but that's still giving them too much benefit of the doubt.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My job is also pulling the stupid "no political discussion because all opinions need to be respected" bullshit

The opinion: immigrants should be deported, queer people killed, and women's lives entirely controlled by men

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I'd rather just everyone be professional and I never have to know what they think politically. If only....

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 weeks ago

Just start wearing a "make fascists afraid again" hat and let him do the escalation (or something more subtle if necessary in your workplace)

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

At my company, is have to tell that guy he can't wear that hat because we don't allow people to wear political stuff. I'm not a fan of dress codes, but I'm a fan of that one.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed. My condo complex doesn't allow flags or signs. We're allowed holiday-appropriate door wreaths and that's it. I'm wicked glad I don't have to know my neighbors' politics.

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

I hate it all. The hats, the flags, the yard signs, etc. But I also love them because I easily know the people I don't want to be around and will never trust. The only thing more identifying is a badge.

[–] exu@feditown.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I never knew Maga actual means something. Always thought it was some stupid they decided to use.

[–] a2part2@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 weeks ago

Both can be right at the same time

[–] bundes_sheep@lemmy.one 1 points 3 weeks ago

Whatever you think about Trump, the person that demanded the other person remove their hat because they didn't like it was in the wrong.

[–] Numenor@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah wearing hats indoors should not be allowed.

[–] sfbing@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I agree. But nobody cares. You must be as old as I am.

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