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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

I'll believe it when I see it. 4TB SSDs are still not affordable.

[–] Capitao_Duarte@lemmy.eco.br 26 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Amazing news! Unfortunately, if this comes to Brazil and 8tb SSD would be the price of a car

[–] adavis@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They already exist. $dayjob bought some 64GB ssds. They were about $7500USD per drive.

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 5 points 22 hours ago

For 64gb? Did you mean tb or is there something unique about these drives?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That makes cars very cheap or technology very expensive

Or both extremely expensive.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

might wanna make sure they have sufficient emf shielding

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (4 children)

More density means less longevity, less write cycles before the blocks wear out, also decreases the time before Nand leakage can end up corrupting the data. Doesn't seem like a good thing to me.

Oh yeah, also more storage space causes complacency with developers who will terribly optimize their games because they don't have to worry about games not fitting on people's disks. Think 100GB games is bad it'll get much worse when they got more free space at their disposal, and worse, the perception that their customers have tons of free space as well.

[–] Raxiel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Thinking about it, it would be nice if when formatting a partition on mlc based drives, you could specify the number of bits per cell used. So an 8tb QLC drive could be formatted as a 2tb SLC for those who want the resilience, without having to commit to it permanently.

I'm sure there are technical reasons that would be difficult, but everything started out difficult until we figured it out.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't disagree with you, but on the other hand, this will be a huge boon for people who do things like sail the high seas and wish to keep what they acquire long term. You're not constantly rewriting in those cases. You're just slowly (or perhaps not so slowly) filling up the drive. Eventually, it's essentially read only.

Considering how much I spent on 6 TB of regular hard drive storage for this reason a few years ago, I'd be all for affordable 8 TB SSDs.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

sail the high seas

You don't need solid state storage for Linux ISOs

[–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I recently bought a 5TB hard drive. It's funny how that sounds like a lot of space until you fill it up and find yourself eyeing another.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yep, I can't afford any more storage. I've had to start curating and weeding, which is a shame because I know there are things I'd probably eventually revisit. Oh well. So long, Duckman.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, you're not wrong but I eventually bought all that shit I torrented in college on gog or steam when I got a job

[–] Teils13@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 1 day ago

There are plenty of games that you can't buy on Gog or Steam even today (like any emulation ISO from console games), and sharing is caring for others that can not afford it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I'm talking about things like movies and TV shows, not games. In fact, if you aren't careful (or just have a game that doesn't allow you to choose where it saves its data), you could have the write cycle issue with games.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Large game file size is an optimization

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For the first part, as long as it isn't too bad and it gets detected, and has methods for mitigating damage from losses, that's fine. If you get a lot more capacity but lose some over time, you still have more capacity.

For the latter, yeah it does but do they even care now? Personally, I don't play any games that large really anyway, so it doesn't effect me. Let them lose you as a customer too if that's an issue and they surpass how much you'll put up with.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

The first part also applies to cold storage, like if you leave it off for a while and data will degrade without power as electrons leak out. Something that might be a concern for data archival on these drives.

I don't think they do care now, I'm not super worried about it but I might be if I wanted to get a PC port of a game that isn't on PC now, where the old one is well optimized but the new one isn't. Was the story when I got Okami HD on PC, it's insane how they went from a game which came on an 8GB disc for PS3 and it's 34GB on PC, I know they included 4K in the PC one but the fact it's so much insanely larger makes me think a lot of it was wasted space by not compressing what could be compressed.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yet apple will still charge $200 for 128gb

[–] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's almost as if oligopolies can manipulate prices regardless of availability

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Excellent, I needed more space for cookies, malware and games that suddenly require 500GB of free space. I'll have that thing full in no time.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just don't play the AAA slop and the file sizes are a lot better.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Not sure which ones are AAA slop. I play online every Monday with a friend in the UK. Here are some of the games we've played:

Grim Dawn, Diablo 4, Borderlands, Borderlands 2, Borderlands 3, Borderlands the presequel, Tiny Tina's Wonderland, and currently we're playing Aliens Elite something.

But I have played other games with a different group of friends online.

Man, the formatting sucks. There was a carriage return after every game. Why is it there for the paragraphs and gone for the lists?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Most of those are in the 30-60GB range IIRC. So if you keep 5 installed, you're looking at 200GB or so.

What OP is referring to is things like COD that are 300GB or so.

Why is it there for the paragraphs and gone for the lists?

You need a blank line between paragraphs, so:

First paragraph.

Second paragraph.

If you want a list, add a hyphen or asterisk, like so, and you won't need the blank line:

- item one
- item two

Renders as:

  • item one
  • item two
[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Thank you very much kind sir or madame or whatever you identify as. Very helpful.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Not sure which ones are AAA slop. I play online every Monday with a friend in the UK. Here are some of the games we've played:

Grim Dawn

Diablo 4,

Borderlands,

Borderlands 2,

Borderlands 3,

Borderlands the presequel,

Tiny Tina's Wonderland,

and currently we're playing Aliens Elite something.

But I have played other games with a different group of friends online.

Man, the formatting sucks. There was a carriage return after every game.

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[–] rem26_art@fedia.io 106 points 2 days ago (14 children)

just in time for GTA6 to come out and be 3TB in size

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[–] rainynight65@feddit.org 50 points 2 days ago (22 children)

The prices will stay the same. Manufacturers will just make more profit.

[–] orangeboats@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

For SSDs this has historically not been the case, there's no way in hell you could buy a 1TB SSD within $200 a decade ago.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.org 1 points 17 hours ago

A decade ago 1TB SSDs were rare and, like all new things in tech, expensive.

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[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 82 points 2 days ago (13 children)

And Apple will finally sell the iPhone starting with 256GB

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[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Soon the new COD will weigh 5TB

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

COD will ship as a 5TB HDD cartridge :D
We will go back to the cartridge bay days.

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