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[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Good news to those watching shorts (I guess) and completely irrelevant information to the rest of us.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 15 points 4 hours ago

Sorry I ran out of concentration halfway through your comment. Could you split it up into bite size chunks and spoon feed it to me?

[–] 667@lemmy.radio 15 points 6 hours ago

The very first video on YouTube was 19 seconds.

Then videos got so long they created shorts.

Now shorts are longer than the first YouTube video.

We’ve come full circle.

A three minute short is not a short, it is a video lol

[–] 0oWow@lemm.ee 26 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I block shorts, so they don’t run anywhere 🤣

[–] Guest_User@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Kallioapina@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 minutes ago

There are also uBlock Origin custom filters/rules that block all shorts, at least for Firefox/Firefox mobile and its forks AFAIK.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I use GrayJay/Revanced on Android and Enhancer for YouTube on Firefox (or any browser)

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I think that is a setting in freetube. Also some browser extensions can do that.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 105 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

So, they're videos.

If only there was a way to watch those.

[–] silentdon@lemmy.world 28 points 10 hours ago

They're videos but worse in every way

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Is there a way to unsubscribe from shorts?

[–] BigBootyBoy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

You can hide them with extensions, I'm pretty sure the one I use is called Unhooked, Revanced also works.

[–] Uli@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 hours ago

Hey, that's longer than I can run.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 60 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

So they introduced shorts just to... lengthen them? The people behind Youtube are so incredibly lost it's almost unbelievable.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 29 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

They introduced Shorts because TikTok threatens their monopoly. TikTok raised max length some time ago so they do it too. Now US is going to ban TT and they’re trying to clone some easy to implement stuff in hopes of getting users that won’t move to Instagram. Don’t see that happening because Google doesn't understand what makes TT so popular. It’s kind of funny that TT recently implemented horizontal videos and it’s as half-assed as Google attempt at vertical ones.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like we'll be having the same conversation about YouTube Shorts in 10 years as we are having about YouTube Gaming today.

Which is to say none.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 8 points 10 hours ago

One can only hope

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

They've begun to realize how they're kinda impossible to really make a profit off of.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago

Not really. I've seen plenty of sponsored YT Shorts, properly tagged and everything so YT's definitely got the infrastructure in place to monetize Shorts. But most sponsors aren't going to pay for a Short because... well, it's too short, so those tend to be few and far between.

However, Shorts aren't profitable for their ability to directly monetize your content, they're profitable for their ability to drive a LOT of new viewers to your longer-form content. The Shorts algorithm is very aggressive at referring you to channels you aren't subscribed to, and that has helped a lot of creators get very large followings, very quickly.

Thor/Pirate Software is an excellent example of this; he's always had a pretty decent following, but once he started putting out YT Shorts, his subscriber and view counts began skyrocketing, which has also overflown into new Twitch subscribers, as well. He started with a small but healthy community, and has blown up into a huge, multi-platform community, and has easily doubled his YT earnings since engaging with Shorts.

Shorts are very helpful to creators right now. More creators need to realize that creating YT Shorts is basically creating ads for your own YT channel, on YT, for free. It's probably the closest thing to "IRL money dupe glitch" that there is.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Not that I disagree but how is tiktok doing it?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 7 points 11 hours ago

State owned media doesn't need to make a profit

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago
[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 42 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Can't wait for 10 hour long reviews of Elden Ring, BUT VERTICALE AND LOOPS NOW!?!

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 15 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I swear some of those long-form video essays on games have longer runtimes than it would take to just play through the game from start to finish, but that's okay, I'm still here for it. Love me some excruciatingly in-depth analysis of video game minutia.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That being said, that 20-hour postmortem video on Skyrim feels right given how long I'd guess the playtime is on most people's savegames.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

A 19 minute video on how you could save one second in a speedrun of one Goldeneye level on hardest difficulty.

https://youtu.be/y9nKhcliPuQ

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Karl Jobst makes such interesting videos. He's an Absolute Legend.

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I don't know who really got that trend going. I've enjoyed up to hour-ish long videos on more or less anything, but a few years back the first truly excessively long video I remember is Whitelight's 7 hour long overview/miniseries on Death Stranding. And to be fair, I did find that faster and more enjoyable than playing Death Stranding.

(Also I get why folks make them: more ads plus having that much watch time heavily biases the algorithm towards you so it's more money overall. And the kind of person that watches 7 hour long reviews in the background (or while sleeping), aka me, certainly help weigh the scales for super long videos.)

But also, I kind of like when shorts are like a minute long or less so I can watch one when I'm like, on the shitter and not accidentally end up with a video essay. I mean 10 minutes used to be the limit of every youtube video! Will they introduce a new, even shorter format? Bring vines or blips back?

[–] danjoubu@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Alright, I split the differance, I think that should make everyone happy.

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 20 points 11 hours ago (6 children)

Top on my premium wish list is a way to disable them completely

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I have a couple browser plugins that make them vanish completely for me. Main one being "BlockTube".

Only one being buggy is the plugin that should rewrite shart links to regular video links, so I can watch them if someone links them to me, but I can just interact with the video normally

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 1 points 10 hours ago

I primarily watch on a Nvidia shield. We have smarttubenext or something on there but I watch so much I want all the history/subs synced through to all devices. So for my TV it's a pain.

I can hide them 30 days at a time from the browser but I'd live for them to not ever show up or show up under the subscriptions tab

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 10 hours ago

Oh no, I don't think my attention span can handle a full three minutes. That's like, a whole movie.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 12 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

So, they're going to change the name to YouTube mediums?

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

youtube bermudas.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They’re going full Australian coffee. YouTube medium shorts.

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[–] tonytins@pawb.social 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty soon they'll be 10 minutes, and then longer, and eventually they'll be just like any other YouTube video, except in vertical.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

with no video controls so you just have to watch the whole thing.

oh you missed something, better watch the whole fucking thing again, with ads of course.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

Glad it repeats incessantly!

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 15 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

You know, if I was going to ask for shorts to go in either direction, I would ask them to be shorter, because short shorts are better.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

short shorts are better

Can confirm, am male and have eyes. 😆

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Who wears short shorts? 🎶

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Eat my shorts!

[–] anubis119@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

If my shorts were 200% longer, they'd be pants.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago

They should call those YouTube Capris.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Seems pointless. Just make a longer video.

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