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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Prediction: Bibi's gonna do it anyway in an attempt to get Harris to lose (gas price increases in the US) and get Trump reelected. Trump then signs Bibi's get-out-of-jail-free card, and he's good to continue.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think Bibi's choices will affect the U.S. election, only if Biden chooses to get American forces directly involved, which is not what's happening.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

An attack that damages oil infra that reduces oil supply will immediately result in oil price increases. It doesn't even have to materially affect the supply yet for the prices to react. It doesn't matter who conducts the attack either. The prices at the pump in the US will follow shortly after. I think I heard the estimate is 5%. Then corpos will raise prices because "oil went up by 5%" and you have inflation in an election period following a period of high inflation that Democrats just managed to get down. Trump will frame it as geopolitical and economic mismanagement. This could tip the scales in a close election enough for it to go to Trump.

Then there's the possibility of retaliatory attacks on tankers in the Red Sea. There's another 5-10% expected from that.

None of this mechanism depends on US army's involvement in the conflict.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps. On the other hand, conservatives love supporting Israel and attacking Muslims, so maybe that'll balance things out? Regardless, I don't an increase in oil prices will tip the scales anywhere near as much as direct U.S. military involvement would. It's a complex calculus.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

Oh direct involvement would definitely make a bigger move. In which direction I don't know.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] OutForARip@lemmy.ca 6 points 13 hours ago

It’s the American way.

[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (3 children)
[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Speaking as an American, it’s because we are bad guys. I’m not saying all Americans are bad. I’m not saying that everything we do is bad. But as a collective, in the context of our actions and their consequences, we inflict tremendous harm on the world and our own citizens.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

To cripple a country that is actively supporting terrorists? Less oil revenue significantly hampers Iran's ability to support terrorism around the Middle East.

[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Why is the president commenting about it to the news? And why is the President helping escalate to an even wider war?

If the point was to limit the spread of conflict, I can't imagine the US joining Isreal in opening more war-fronts will accomplish that goal.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago

The point is that by directly attacking Israel, Iran already has opened that warfront.

[–] hoch@lemmy.world -3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Because Iran needs to learn a lesson?

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What lessons? At this point anyway?

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Directly attack Israel and it will directly attack back?

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 9 hours ago

Uhh and when is Israel going to learn that lesson?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago

The warnings came as the Iranian president, Masoud Pezeshkian, sought assurances from Gulf leaders at a summit in Doha that they would remain neutral in the event of any joint Israeli-US attack in Iran.

The Saudi foreign minister, Prince Faisal bin Farhan, said: “We intend to close the book on disagreements with Iran forever and develop relations between us like two friends.”

Interesting. Weren't these supposed to be enemies?