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This is more apt than the russian version of this meme because Israel literally builds wall bubbles like this in the west bank
I use this strat in Factorio
I mean before the invasion Russia was building walls and moving them forward overnight to slowly take territory. It's not entirely off base about Russia.
The complete opposite.
I wonder who made all those countries want to join a defensive pact. Almost like there was a threat.
The difference here is free choice
Nato is a group of independant, mostly democratic states. Nato doesn't kill people, doesn't attack, does not do genocide and most relevant for the meme, it doesn't redraw state lines.
If Nato would do several of those things, you might have a point, please prove me wrong.
Nato doesn't kill people, doesn't attack, does not do genocide and most relevant for the meme, it doesn't redraw state lines.
NATO killed thousands of people, redrew state lines, and overthrew several governments, in yugoslavia, libya, afghanistan, and north africa.
It's main enemies (and those of it's member countries) are the anti-colonialist movement:
https://blackagendareport.com/our-case-against-nato-africans-and-struggle-against-imperialism
The article you posted says that the US is instigating a conflict in Eastern Europe in the very first line. I'm not saying that NATO countries haven't acted despicably or even evilly in the past, but instigating a conflict in EE is blatantly untrue. I'm going to list the article as "bias favoring Russian imperialist aggression masquerading as anti-US-imperialism".
Worse than the settlements are the fenced roads going to the settlements.
They build a settlement 20 miles from you but the road crosses your land? Well now you've got to travel 40 miles to get to the other side of your field 100 yards away.
What's that? They built another settlement on the other side of your land, and then built a road between the 2 settlements? Now you're surrounded by roads with fences you can't cross.
Yup, a 2 min walk becomes a 30 min commute.
This whole thing is a bit hypocritical coming from Americans and Westerners
Yeah, I wouldn't be able to defend Israels actions either. So, I'd would have to resort to deflections and cheap whataboutery like you too.
American terrorists don't get to tell me what war is bad
Some!
How do you justify ignoring everyone else telling you its bad tho?
Ironically, people say the same thing about Israel now.
Did the average American in 2024 colonize 15th century North America?
Yup. You guys haven't stopped colonizing. Neo colonies are a thing even if you don't like to admit it. It's funny you don't want me to judge you by the atrocities of your ancestors, yet you guys still treat my people like savages
“My people” you aren’t some king man
You thought us brown people wouldn't still be a nation even after all your murder? Racist fuck
You mean Europeans. They took the continents of Noth and South America from the natives.
....they then left and a whole different bunch of white people turned up to live in the land that had been recently been stolen from the indigenous Americans.
You'd have thought that the indigenous Americans would have tried to take their land back in the time between the Europeans leaving and the Americans turning up but I guess not.
Weird how the Europeans left and Americans showed up...almost like the Europeans just started calling themselves Americans.
Thats the one.
hey, we took that land fair and square.
Let the native americans have it back. I bet they'd do a better job then republicans and democrats.
*than
No, no, they have a point: The original native population DID do a better job... But then Republicans and Democrats.
Yes, we are all bad people. Hold on, I need to finish eating my cat, and I'll weigh in more.
Generally, the people posting this sort of thing also support land back or some variant of it, and will be on the side of the indigenous population in any dispute with western colonizers.
Nope, all Americans bad. We're bad. Just embrace it, I guess.
Look I can't stand the Lemmygrad idiots either but you really don't understand why developed nations would compare themselves to the global hegemon rather than India, Brazil or Mexico??? Especially when US perspectives are widely represented on both social media and news media? And when American culture constantly has a delusional state of superiority???
I can understand when the topic is comparison, but my experience is that it seems that more often than not, the comparison is made even when not part of the topic. It could be some horrible news of a tragedy that occurred in the US, and rather than discuss the matter at hand, the comments are about how Europe is better. Of course they don't do that with other countries like Brazil, India, or Mexico. That's the point of the comment: to point out how ridiculous it would be, especially when a lot of the issues in those countries could be traced back to European colonization. But, since the US is a powerhouse with GDP, military, media, and global political power, everyone thinks it's okay to shit on it. I'd like to point out that the GDP stays at the top. Arguably, the quality of life of the average EU resident is better than the average American resident. Y'all tell us everyday with your medical systems and healthcare access, workers rights, time off, gun control, etc.
If American culture constantly has a delusional state of superiority, then why are the comments on Lemmy about how the EU is superior? Let's compare the number of comments on Lemmy in which Americans state or imply their superiority to Europe with vice versa. I bet that ratio will easily surpass 1:10. And the American one will more likely than not be downvoted to hell. Yeah, there are Americans and American media that are delusional about their superiority, but that is not the case with Lemmy users. In general, those are conservatives/Republicans and some moderates. Europe has those clowns too. American users on Lemmy tend to be quite left, desire strong leftist policies, and acknowledge the reality of the situation while being humble af, yet they are the ones that have to read all the shit talking about Americans every day on here. It's annoying af; that's all.
edit: Btw, despite that everyone may disagree with me, justifiably or not, I appreciate the opportunity to have this discussion.
Where are you seeing Lemmygrad?
Is there any country on earth that hasn't at one point been involved in a land dispute?
One of the classic blunders
I think having a land dispute is the first step in having a country at all
Yeah that's fair
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