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[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

lmaoooo Murica is just 10 companies in a trenchcoat pretending to be a country

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 95 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unironically how I live my life

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 192 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Alternative headlines:

  • Dell wants to contribute to global warming for no good reason.
  • Dell wants to expose workers to death by automobile for no real reason.
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 164 points 4 days ago

Dell looking to cut workforce without layoffs.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 days ago

We need an alternative headlines community

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[–] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 160 points 4 days ago (6 children)

So Dell wants to do a layoff of sales staff, and is going to lose their best performers first.

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Dell's inside sales team probably has a much flatter bell curve, performance wise, then their outside (traveling) reps.

So yes, they are looking to do a layoff without the headlines, or severance, but probably aren't as concerned where on the bell curve those employees rank.

Middle and lower management of those teams is absolutely sweating bullets about their teams getting wrecked, but big picture, whatever impact the C Suite is expecting, clearly isn't enough to outweigh whatever net outcome they're hoping for here.

Edit: also, I pretty much guarantee that any of their far high-end outliers on the inside sales team bell curve, will be given an exemption by whoever is 2 or 3 levels above their direct manager.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'll be looking for work in about 3 months and my hard line is wfh.

I will never work in an office with people again.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I totally get it. Good luck though, make sure you find a landing space first. WFH jobs are decreasing and are getting much more competitive. They're also, unfortunately, prone to be suddenly or slowly shifted to in-office positions. Trying to work a mandatory period of WFH into your contract might be useful, but that'll be pretty difficult.

As long as you are very employable and in the right field you should be fine. Using "transitional WFH" as a way to entice workers is becoming more commonplace and employers are often not transparent about it.

A friend works in HR at a place that hires as "WFH" and doesn't mention at any point that there is already a timeline in place for two days in office after six weeks and then full time in office after three months. It's not stipulated anywhere, it's a "new policy" that comes down... on the same timeline... for every new employee. Lol

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

thanks for the heads up and I'll definitely will keep that in mind when I'm looking.

If I can't find wfh work, I'll focus my efforts on building/supporting software developer unions while working construction. rather be outside and be miserable than inside and miserable.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 130 points 4 days ago (19 children)

Why the fuck would any office worker whose job is 100% on a computer need to be in an office? I don't understand why companies want to pay for all of that electricity and real estate just to make people sit in cubicles.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 87 points 4 days ago (20 children)

To prevent a crash in the commercial office real estate market.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Meh fuck the commercial real estate market. Turn all the buildings into micro apartments or tear them down and install fields of solar panels.

[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 42 points 4 days ago

I've been screaming its just wage theft. My city provides tax breaks for occupancy (employees prop up the local economy buying lunch). They are making me pay for gas, time, and car maintenance (and lunch but fuck them, I'll just not eat) for this tax break which goes to C-level bonuses/shareholders. Its just another way of skimming off the top of employee wages.

We worked fully remote for nearly 2 years and the hybrid policy just keeps getting worse and worse. Coupled with quarterly riffs, I also suspect this is to avoid severance pay/unemployment while accelerating the down sizing. Yet our CEO bonus keeps going up and up despite our stock plummeting since the end of COVID lock downs.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Tear them down and build houses. Flood the market of every major city with houses so it becomes unprofitable to buy thousands of houses just to rent.

Then home sales go up, and millenials can ACTUALLY buy houses in their lifetime!

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Some people are bad at working remote, and want to drag the rest of us down with them, too.

Yes, it's a slightly different skill set to work remote. You have to be better at the written word. You can't just roll up to someone's desk and be like "have a minute?" (which is fucking awful anyway). You also need to be responsive and set your status appropriately. A lot of coworkers just wander off and leave their slack status as active. To my mind if you're running an errand longer than taking a dump, you should update your status.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

So managers and other poor personality types have someone to torment. This is said flippantly but I'm quite serious.

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[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Funny how all of these companies have the same policy regarding returning to work, despite the fact that a dozen or so studies exist that prove empirically that employee productivity increased during the WFH era.

Real estate investments and oil production are the only American dream. Productivity doesn't mean shit if oil stops flowing or real estate values evaporate. The ruling class doesn't care if you finished your excel spreadsheet by 4pm.

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[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 68 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Quite right too. The most important factor for me when buying a computer is that the sales droid is in an office. All those CPU, RAM and disk numbers are secondary to that.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I just buy whichever one is called "gamer computer" and has the prettiest LED lights on the case. Thats how you know it's the good shit!

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[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

I'm beginning to think companies are doing this to get people to leave by themselves

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The most important lesson I have learned throughout my career is that large corporations are not worth working for. Too much "HR" interference.

The best work environments I have ever been a part of is when I worked for smaller businesses that were still made up of actual people and not nameless/faceless/soulless "corporate HR departments", who's sole purpose is to "make corpo more money no matter the means".

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Because making calls and using a computer requires a specific lacale...

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

More like "sales teams are the reason middle managers think ALL employees slack off when not watched."

I get that sales is a SUPER depressing culture, a ridiculously antiquated work environment, and full of some utterly soul-sucking mandates from above, but I have never seen, in any workplace, a team that needs someone constantly riding herd on them like the sales team.

Every place I've worked, every place that a place I've worked has had as a client, and every business I've ever visited had the same problem -- sales people are largely unmotivated because their job has a much higher chance to SUCK OUT LOUD than most of the other jobs at a given company.

When five figure quarterly bonuses, daily friendly team competitions for gift cards, more paid-for-by-the-company outings than the c suites get and pickle ball on company time twice a week aren't enough to hype people up to do their actual job, something is really fucking wrong with the job expectations.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They would ask you to return to the ashes if the office burnt down.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I used to work for a major business outsourcer. One of their contingency plans in case an office burned down or had to be evacuated was literally to make everybody work in another office 50 miles away.

It was so bad that they weren't even willing to reimburse travel costs. It was either get there or be fired.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

And in an unlikely turn of fate, the backup office burned down too.

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Time to fire half the workforce.

Before you do that... I have a better idea

This is how they cull us now. Make us quit.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

That's how you get rid of the good people who can easily get a job somewhere else.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I quit answering my dell sales buy. His quotes have been above what I can get buying right off the website. Their premier login must tack on a 25% charge.

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[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

Now they can play golf together instead of by themselves.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 20 points 4 days ago

Unless it's the initial outreach team or on-premises staff, sales would be one of the few roles totally suited to remote working.

Some of the more creative or collaborative roles I can see the argument for hybrid working - even if it's just one day a week or month in the office - but sales, customer service, or first line support seems to be the last area you'd impose a return to work mandate on.

That said, I haven't got extortionate office rents to justify 😂

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Sales Team tells Dell to return to Linkedin?

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