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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Plain and simple, this was climate change. North Carolina has had record rain fall this year. Also the hottest summer on record beating out 2023.

Plus side is we are expanding highways and building a lot more houses. Plus we are getting a Buc-ees, so at least we will have cold drinks while we fry and drown.

https://www.cbs17.com/weather/weather-stories/rainfall-totals-of-2024-off-to-highest-start-since-1939-in-the-triangle/

https://www.wral.com/story/top-10-hottest-summer-so-far-is-sizzling-across-much-of-the-state/21527247/

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/weather-news/article288918328.html

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But dismantling NOAA means the data that proves this will be paywalled and beholden to private ownership, so skewed... So the plan to combat your line of reasoning is already in motion. They just need enough Americans to fall for their candidate.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah, most people don't care bc it's the "frog and boiling water" tale. Hell, NOAA can't even build an app due to corporates and capitalism.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

“Plus we are getting a Buc-ees,” Oh hell yeah now we’re talking!!! “..so at least we will have cold drinks while we fry and drown.” Ah fuck!

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What?!? You're telling me Hurricanes in Tennessee aren't normal?

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah that is always a concern on a mountain. Volcano and hurricane insurance is a must.

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Where is Buc-ees going in?

[–] Knives@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Passed unanimously. I look forward to future investigations by local news outlets. I'm sure it was on the up and up.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Time to ban talking about climate change!

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And privatize weather predictions so you don't see it coming either.

[–] No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So much drama. Just subscribe to their services in perpetuity and pay the premium tier to get access to hurricane information.

/s

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

And in the extra premium tier you get predictions on the future development of real estate prices in relation to climate change.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They can't hear such talking anyways over the really cool sound of their coal rollers.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Time to socialize the losses

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That was already done over fifty years ago through the national flood insurance program, NFIP.

PSA: If you are in a flood prone area, your lender may require you to purchase flood insurance. But did you know that some communities will argue against changes to the flood maps that would show them as being in a flood prone area? This means you may be at a higher risk for flooding than the federal maps would suggest. You can still buy flood insurance through the NFIP, though.

Here's a "myths and facts about flood insurance" page from FEMA: https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20230425/fact-sheet-myths-and-facts-about-flood-insurance

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Last I checked, the food insurance was ridiculously expensive if you actually wanted to cover the full rebuild cost of your home. It wasn't financially wise to get the insurance.

On top of that, when so many people get flooded in an event like this, everyone who does restoration work is able to raise their prices due to supply/demand. There's no winning.

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

NFIP insurance is pretty limited, I think $250k structure and $100k contents. It also doesn't cover things like additional living expenses, which would include a hotel while you're displaced. It's also often your only choice, though. It's something that every home owner needs to consider for themselves based on the flood risk of their area.

[–] SeikoAlpinist@slrpnk.net 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The town of Chimney Rock is gone.

No hyperbole.

It's gone.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

God that must be awful. Your whole life you work hard and earn the money to buy a house, you keep your whole life in there, it’s your HOME. And then some fucking storm comes and just destroys it all. I mean, hopefully you & your loved ones survive, and that’s all that really matters, but to see all the physical representation of your life just washed away. I feel terrible for those people.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

There is a kid on my son's soccer team (East Coast) who is from Cali. I asked him why his family moved here. Unfased he said some forest fire burned his home down and then when they found a place to live again another forest fire burned it down. I guess is parents were like "fuck this."

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh the bright side, probably don't have to go to work on Monday.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There probably are a lot of people that don't have a work to go to anymore. I wouldn't call that bright.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Anybody want to buy a house? Half price, only floated down the river once.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Don't have to pay taxes anymore either!

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm not in a flood zone, but seeing things like this is why I mounted a hatchet on my attic wall. It's pretty certain I'll never need it, but I can live a little lighter with the delusion that I'll be able to hack my way onto the rooftop instead of dying, unfound, in a sweltering attic.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly, it's a good idea. Isn't this how some people survived Hurricane Katrina?

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago

It was Katrina that made me even think of doing it.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As someone living in Florida where people generally are able to predict and prepare for storms like this (even though they still cause devastation), I had absolutely no idea that it was possible for devastation like this to occur from a hurricane all the way in North Carolina. My power didn't even go out. Did the people living there know this could happen? Was it a surprise??? How is there so much flooding over there???

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The bad flooding is because of how steep those areas are. Down in Florida, water takes a while to make its way into the creeks, streams, and rivers. The areas with the most extreme flooding is because entire mountainsides worth of rainfall drains in the span of a couple days.

Eastern TN and western NC also had a ton of rainfall from thunderstorms just before Helene so the ground was already saturated. For reference check out this rain gauge in Asheville.

https://waterdata.usgs.gov/monitoring-location/353312082355545/#parameterCode=00045&period=P7D&showMedian=false

The rain from Helene didn't really get to Western NC until the early hours of Friday the 27th. That gauge was already at 10 inches by that time. So really the storm before Helene brought more rain than Helene did. Either the thunderstorm or Helene alone would have been moderate, but manageable flash floods, but the two back to back was insane.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I had absolutely no idea that it was possible for devastation like this to occur from a hurricane all the way in North Carolina.

That's because it's only really becoming a thing due to climate change.

[–] loie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They rarely get hurricane direct hits, but deal with the remnants of major hurricanes a lot. Not many homes are storm proofed like you'd see in Florida though. Clearly their city storm sewer infrastructures are not equipped to deal with the combination of a high annual rainfall followed by a deluge like this.

Edit: I want to clarify that Eastern NC is more prepared than out west, the eastern half sees stronger hurricane remnants more often than out west, where they still get them but they're weaker from the mountains. Not this time, apparently.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hopefully they want to understand why this happened and will learn who's to blame.

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Those goddamn Cloud People launching their attacks on the American way of life! It's an act of war!

/s

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Thoughts and Prayers.

That's LITERALLY All we can do now let's go buy some Gasoline!

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

I knew a Helene and she was just as wet and wild

[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

They’re gonna need a lot of rice for this one…